Episode #114 – Nuno Doesn’t Know! Conte to Tottenham After Man United Thumping

In Episode #114 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, we discuss the seismic shift in the Premier League landscape that followed after Man United beat Tottenham…

  • Nuno Espirito Santo is out after only four months! We dissect what really happened
  • Antonio Conte is in! Spurs get their man albeit a little late. What does this mean for the club?
  • Tottenham lose the battle, but did they just win the war?

Also:

  • Leicester come up lame against Arsenal despite plenty of opportunities
  • Laurent calls the Crystal Palace shock over Manchester City!
  • Liverpool-Brighton play one of the games of the season at Anfield

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Transcript

00:00

hello and welcome to the squeaky bum

00:03

time podcast with mike and laurent it is

00:06

tuesday november 2nd in this episode the

00:09

sword damocles actually fell, the loser

00:12

does indeed leave town and there were

00:14

wild games and a plus 180 long shot came

00:16

through but first mike is this the

00:19

biggest news of the season our biggest

00:20

episode spurs kante discuss what the

00:24

[ __ ] is we try we try so hard not to be

00:27

super spurs and city-centric on this

00:29

show but it'd have to often fail but

00:31

this is all about spurs right i mean we

00:33

would yeah

00:35

this is a very special episode about

00:37

spurs

00:39

yeah yeah it is hot hot hot off the

00:41

presses we're coming to you from monday

00:43

night

00:44

where antonio conte has just signed the

00:47

contract the ink is not even dry on the

00:48

page he's the new manager of tottenham

00:51

hotspur football club i don't know what

00:52

to think i don't know how to feel i

00:54

don't know what to do with my hands

00:56

it's a lot it's a lot to take in a lot's

00:58

happened in the last 72 hours and we're

01:00

going to go through all of it but that

01:01

is the headline and uh and with a holy

01:04

[ __ ] exclamation point so many questions

01:07

so many thoughts um yeah first of all is

01:10

why didn't this happen four months ago

01:12

uh is he jose part two um

01:16

why did they do this in the manner that

01:18

they did it was it really fair to nuno

01:21

how did nuno go from manager of the

01:23

month premier league managed the month

01:25

of august two fired seven games later um

01:29

we'll get into all of it but yeah i mean

01:30

right off the jump

01:33

you gotta think that spurs are better

01:35

waking up tomorrow than they are

01:37

yesterday um they have a manager who is

01:41

a quote-unquote and i hate this phrase

01:42

but it's true

01:44

serial winner right he is a guy who goes

01:46

places and wins things and if you're a

01:49

tottenham you have not had any of those

01:51

since:

01:55

you've got to think about it in those

01:57

terms that like look i i bag on the

01:59

carbile cup a lot and and even the fa

02:01

cup to a smaller extent but like these

02:03

people are just [ __ ] tired of losing

02:06

and i get it and they're not wrong but

02:08

um

02:09

they have in themselves uh sort of a

02:12

partnership because right like this is a

02:14

the reason the only reason let's be

02:15

clear that kante picked up the phone

02:17

again

02:18

after that

02:20

total disaster in the summer where they

02:22

tried to sign uh

02:25

it's because of fabio paratici right

02:27

like

02:28

they were friendly at juventus uh they

02:30

worked together obviously um

02:33

but it's

02:34

without him and without the promise of

02:37

him kante has managed against the best

02:39

spurs there was right with pochettino

02:42

and yeah the battle of stanford bridge

02:44

or is that the year before

02:45

i i can't remember if he who's managing

02:48

that chelsea team i hated whoever it was

02:51

it was it had to be it had to be jose um

02:56

was it jose because it was the year it

02:58

was it was it was new it was new year's

03:00

eve it was early it was it was when they

03:02

were up and coming

03:04

no the battle of the bridge was late

03:06

late because that was the game that

03:07

candid lesson the title anyway it's not

03:08

important um

03:10

so

03:11

there's just

03:13

i don't know i'm this is all drinking it

03:15

in brand new but like um so paratici

03:18

right like

03:19

he saw when they were at peak spurs that

03:22

they didn't really kick on they didn't

03:24

really supplement the team my goodness

03:26

we've talked about it until i was blue

03:27

in the face and wanted to kill myself um

03:30

but is this a different spurs right it

03:34

felt like jose was offered that when he

03:36

came aboard right the whole failing of

03:39

the the flame out of of mauricio leaving

03:42

was that he was never supplemented and

03:44

helped when he needed it and jose was

03:46

saying well i need funds right and it

03:48

wasn't something he also said that this

03:50

was a good team and i can win with them

03:53

yeah

03:53

and

03:55

and you know what he could have he may

03:56

have won the league cup it's possible

03:58

like it was a final he could have won it

04:00

it was a final it was a final

04:03

i i i just think like with kante

04:08

there's a bigger sort of thing here

04:10

which is like the premier league now has

04:13

literally all the greatest managers of

04:16

the last 20 years aside from mourinho

04:18

right

04:19

klopp

04:20

um

04:21

uh conte

04:23

tukel even even benitez is a really good

04:26

manager and then you've got you know the

04:28

the sort of there's only like two you

04:30

got ranieri

04:31

ranieri all that like there's like the

04:34

last fifth the last 10 or 15 league

04:36

winners the managers are all in the

04:38

league yeah well yeah again just

04:40

aside from jose but yeah um

04:43

yeah i'm just i'm carlo enchilada no

04:46

he's not there anymore sorry he was just

04:47

there but he was just there right yeah

04:48

yeah i mean it's it's just and i just

04:51

think about the premier league it's just

04:52

the narrative like it's now becoming

04:56

the new york city to um

04:59

to the bundesliga

05:01

to

05:03

to uh la liga's newark right it's just

05:06

sucking all the energy into it right

05:08

like it's a bigger city it's a bigger

05:10

story maybe there is a kind of

05:12

consolidation of up and down where like

05:15

the money just flows you can't

05:17

there's no

05:18

there's nothing you see there's nothing

05:20

you see it's network effects there's

05:22

nothing you see that the premier league

05:24

is going to start to fail right here you

05:26

go and it's just yeah the premier league

05:28

is being gentrified that's basically

05:30

what's happening here

05:32

all of the

05:33

affluent

05:35

young

05:36

white

05:37

male and females are just flowing into

05:40

the premier league what's the what's the

05:42

ghetto team that someone bought that was

05:43

like the middle class black neighborhood

05:45

was new castle and it's been bought up

05:47

you're saying are you saying that you're

05:49

saying that new castle is bed stuy

05:52

no that's whales

05:53

[Laughter]

05:56

but yeah i think that's the same thing

05:58

and the only thing that's gonna break it

06:00

is the super league and that's why it's

06:02

sort of

06:02

it this is another one of these moments

06:04

where if we can step back this is

06:06

another one of the money the glamour the

06:09

fact that the premier league is

06:10

international any manager

06:12

if you're not in the premier league

06:14

you're not in the game

06:16

right right you've got to be one of the

06:18

characters on the show right yeah and

06:20

kante's and they're all going to lose

06:22

right only one of them is going to win

06:23

the league there's only one fa cup

06:25

there's only one league cup and you've

06:26

got to convince yourself that that thing

06:28

matters because you're supposed to be

06:31

you know a special guest star is like

06:33

what the [ __ ] i can't believe it's like

06:35

uh the scooby doo episodes when the

06:36

three stooges were on it that was a big

06:38

deal man

06:41

so let's go do we want to go into the

06:43

anatomy of what has actually happened or

06:45

we want to talk about the game first

06:46

because we're going to talk about i mean

06:47

i think i think we should probably talk

06:48

about the game because i think that

06:50

instills some of the narrative because

06:53

it did distill

06:55

two managers lives right right on the

06:57

one hand we have the scene go ahead

06:59

sorry

07:00

on the one hand we have ole who is the

07:02

most nine lives manager in the world he

07:04

gets a performance one more time he does

07:06

the cursory change that everyone wants

07:09

he gets the team to play to their

07:11

strengths for once which is hey don't

07:13

press liverpool you [ __ ] what are you

07:16

doing so

07:18

you know united sit back they play a

07:20

back three which means they are

07:22

essentially adding an extra defender to

07:24

protect their two midfielders who got

07:26

overrun it's still mcfred but

07:29

like you said and like you should have

07:31

bet which was ronaldo's score and liv

07:33

and united to win ronaldo opens the

07:35

scoring i thought spurs were okay in the

07:37

beginning i think son and maura were

07:39

really trying again harry where are you

07:42

i know it's hard i get it what are you

07:44

gonna do he's he's

07:46

you're not lewandowski if you're not

07:48

affecting the games anyway that's a

07:50

different story

07:51

they trying to affect the games there's

07:53

a miss early i feel like sun had a

07:54

chance where he shot it over the bar

07:56

coming on one side um

07:58

but then an amazing ball from from from

08:01

fernandez from bruno to ronaldo and it's

08:05

a finish that

08:07

nobody does as i say three or four

08:09

people in the world could do right some

08:12

guys do it once in a blue moon

08:14

but it's a trend

08:16

yeah it's a training ground play where

08:18

you're [ __ ] around at the end of

08:20

practice and that goes in and everybody

08:22

goes all right we're down here nobody's

08:23

going to do that so to set the stage

08:25

it's a perfect ball nice and soft over

08:28

the top diagonal that ronaldo does a

08:31

sort of juke move runs into space does

08:33

these little things when people talk

08:35

about oh this striker has good movement

08:37

what it means is they take a step

08:39

forward they take a step back they run

08:41

around the defender and then peel away

08:43

literally putting the footsteps on the

08:45

defender to make them think there's some

08:46

place right when they're someplace else

08:48

and ronaldo pulls himself back into the

08:50

back post and he's got a lot of work to

08:52

do he plucks this thing out of the sky

08:54

and roofs it uh it's the it's the aguero

08:57

gold location in that that top it wasn't

09:00

a roof it was it was

09:01

it was straight across into the side

09:03

netting right which oh is that right it

09:05

felt really whatever yeah no it was well

09:07

don't talk about roofies with ronaldo

09:09

because you know he might oh there you

09:10

go he's not allowed in vegas uh it was

09:13

it was a straight piss missile into the

09:14

side netting and that's why it was

09:16

actually to me more impressive because

09:17

it's easier to hit it up right yeah but

09:20

yeah the fact that he hit it on a

09:21

straight plane was actually the most

09:22

impressive and then i think spurs are

09:24

okay they're hanging in there they're

09:26

kind of not creating having the same

09:28

problems that they have which is they

09:30

just don't

09:31

create anything so as much as

09:34

united did sit back and kind of left but

09:36

that's how they were going to play the

09:37

whole game no no that was you know what

09:38

i'm saying like right you don't have

09:39

that spurs were open

09:41

united were like yeah [ __ ] fine

09:44

go for it right but i think the larger

09:45

point is that like you know as you said

09:47

we had our chances and uh sunny should

09:49

have taken that better and i'm not gonna

09:51

criticize sunny at all but but it's um

09:53

but it's

09:54

but it was

09:55

completely uninspired

09:58

sun

09:59

and mora

10:01

the only ones playing with energy

10:05

a sense of a sense of pride okay i mean

10:08

i'm i'm i'm applying things it seemed

10:11

that way watching from behind

10:13

i don't expect skip and hoiberg to do

10:15

anything they're not able to

10:18

okay where's la celso's creative passes

10:21

where's the movement where everybody

10:23

expects

10:25

yeah of course the crab is tense right

10:26

but like

10:27

i think we're missing the point here and

10:29

where we're

10:30

like

10:31

babies playing

10:33

that fine

10:34

the the story is not spurs here the

10:36

story is

10:37

and by the way sky sports won't tell you

10:39

this the man-made narrative won't tell

10:41

you this united weren't that [ __ ]

10:43

good no they were it was easy it was

10:45

easy well it was easy but they also gave

10:48

up chances that they could have been

10:49

two-nil down easily sure in the first

10:51

20-25 minutes and so when i looked

10:54

through very often

10:55

the score line sure the score line

10:56

flatters united quite a bit here and

10:58

what is going to happen as a result of

11:01

this is that yes united won the game

11:03

they're going to lose to our team and in

11:04

a 4d

11:06

four dimension chess move

11:08

spurs win the war

11:09

because

11:11

because what happens now is that olay

11:13

stays right those perspectives for all

11:15

of us

11:16

exactly

11:18

we wouldn't have a show if he got fired

11:20

this is great

11:22

all they're saying is great the reprieve

11:23

this is the type of performance this is

11:25

the type of performance that you've seen

11:28

out of united time and time again but

11:30

nobody's talking about it a because

11:32

they're tired of it potentially but b

11:34

because they've got a new whipping boy

11:35

right spurs this spurs that and that's

11:36

okay it's fine i'm not complaining but

11:38

what i'm saying is this united team is

11:40

going to continue to get smoked against

11:43

proper competition

11:45

yeah but to be fair

11:47

uh gary neville

11:49

and roy keane the bassist for roy kent

11:53

both were like come on yeah it's nice

11:55

that they won they did what they were

11:56

supposed to do but neville was like why

11:59

the [ __ ] did it take nine games how do

12:01

you not know that this is how you should

12:03

play why did you wait and i don't know

12:06

if this is gonna work against other

12:08

teams

12:09

right i think one thing

12:11

one thing i did notice was varane made a

12:13

difference right he was much more mobile

12:15

he was much more able to come out

12:18

and and defend guys out in space on the

12:20

wings because they had a three there was

12:21

protection you could go out there and

12:23

stop

12:24

uh royale from doing things with ben

12:27

davies you don't have to stop him from

12:28

doing anything

12:30

go ahead cross it enjoy yourself um

12:33

but i mean it's one of these tricky

12:34

things how bad spurs were uninspired

12:37

when maura came off the crowds chanted

12:40

you don't know what you're doing oh that

12:41

was rough

12:43

that was rough dude because he was not

12:45

playing well but like yeah right all

12:47

right i don't know what you're doing

12:48

they're pulled off at halftime and

12:49

they're booed off at the whistle let's

12:51

go back to what the [ __ ] this is all new

12:53

no problems okay yeah let's go back into

12:56

nuno a little bit so

12:58

opening day of the season all of the

13:00

cane kerfuffle and nonsense around the

13:02

club he's not playing city r they're

13:05

trying to steal kane in the middle of

13:06

the night like the baltimore cults and

13:08

it's

13:09

it's just toxic and what happens at

13:12

tottenham hot through stadium 60 000

13:14

people stood up and said [ __ ] you not

13:17

today and realistically if you go back

13:19

and you think about that game they

13:21

pushed spurs were fine but every time we

13:24

talked about it multiple times on the

13:25

show every time tanganga kicked greelish

13:27

or kicked sterling 60 000 people said

13:30

[ __ ] you idiot it was like they were

13:32

cheering a goal the stadium won that

13:34

game i'm genuinely even in that belief

13:37

it's okay

13:38

triumphant three points no no no's right

13:41

two idiots with microphones said um

13:44

hey what do we know it was a signature

13:47

win for a club that was just so

13:49

just

13:50

bruised and battered from a summer of

13:53

just frankly getting torn through the

13:55

mud right so that was awesome it was a

13:57

great moment

13:59

the next game if you remember was away

14:02

at wolves and they got played off the

14:04

park and um uh

14:07

dama triore put three shots including a

14:09

breakaway into like row z like

14:12

horrible

14:14

he took a shot went out for a [ __ ]

14:17

throw-in okay this is the kind of

14:18

accuracy we're talking about here so

14:20

they get a gold they steal that game and

14:22

i mean steal so now they're two and oh

14:24

and everybody's like okay and i go back

14:26

and listen i was like hey they were not

14:28

good all right let's just slow down and

14:30

it was a hostile environment fine you

14:32

come back home and then you barely beat

14:34

watford

14:35

barely barely on a [ __ ] set peace goal

14:38

by sunny from about 45 yards out

14:41

and it just kind of flukes into the net

14:43

and you only beat watford one nothing

14:44

hey shut your mouth take the points get

14:46

away with it go into the international

14:48

break and then all [ __ ] hell breaks

14:50

loose with the argentinian guys sonny

14:52

gets her literally on other sides of the

14:54

[ __ ] world

14:55

in fact they're probably closer to each

14:56

other than they were to london

14:58

um

14:59

so the palace everything starts to break

15:01

you got in there the door's blowing

15:03

right a few against

15:04

really there was a red card for tanganga

15:07

that was weird so he never played again

15:09

parts to happen is two things adversary

15:11

adversity

15:13

you know strikes where you didn't have

15:15

all the argentinian guys and i believe

15:16

sonny missed that game as well

15:18

and you started to see

15:20

that they had papered over the cracks

15:21

for a month and it was all

15:22

happy-go-lucky but holy [ __ ] this is

15:24

actually what's happening here

15:26

he didn't really have a plan

15:29

now to give the man uh his due

15:32

he's been a premier league manager for

15:33

years at wolves

15:35

um

15:36

but

15:37

he didn't ever really seem like he knew

15:40

how to play with this team and say what

15:42

you will about kane he's great he's

15:44

horrible he's sulking he wants to leave

15:46

he wants to stay whatever

15:48

he didn't do much

15:49

but

15:50

there was never any

15:53

any ability to to really give him

15:57

i guess the limelight give him the ball

15:58

give him service right and and we we had

16:00

seen this over the years when he doesn't

16:02

get involved he's in he's irrelevant

16:06

right he doesn't get he doesn't get

16:08

involved right

16:09

yeah it happens so

16:11

so i i don't really lay a lot of blame

16:13

at his feet surprised

16:15

but um

16:17

it's just there was never really a plan

16:19

the newcastle game which again going

16:21

into it was a narrative monster with

16:23

them just building it the first sold out

16:24

game the same james park they gave up

16:26

30 seconds that looked bad it played

16:29

well though who scores a game winner

16:31

right so

16:32

um and but that was the first time we

16:34

said it on the show and i said it's

16:36

[ __ ] new castle give it a minute

16:39

let it sit and if it stays then we have

16:41

something if not and we're in trouble

16:43

i also think i also think that you know

16:45

one of these things is

16:47

the style of play is not a spurs style

16:50

that's like just stated by levy the

16:52

north london derby was really bad so it

16:55

was the equivalent of the liverpool game

16:57

without the well but chelsea chelsea at

17:00

that point was like are they are they

17:01

gonna win the league and they're back

17:03

they're still sure so that's okay that's

17:06

not the end of the world losing to

17:07

chelsea is not the end of the world it

17:09

was at home that's bad but the arsenal

17:11

arsenal is bad um and what's that you

17:14

know this west ham game you can't three

17:17

london darby's ten to one i think

17:19

yeah it's bad really bad no less than

17:21

that but a little yes one no ten uh

17:24

palace three nil palace lc four three

17:27

nil four london derbies pardon me that's

17:30

how you get to ten right so yeah not

17:33

great and then i think and then the

17:34

other thing is nuno's personality he's

17:36

just

17:37

he never she's a guy who's not mourinho

17:40

well but

17:41

in the face of adversity in the face of

17:44

difficulty he didn't handle it very well

17:45

you could tell he was cold and

17:48

i'm not i'm not criticizing the guy i'm

17:50

saying that he he struggled in an

17:52

environment where everybody had been

17:54

dealing with

17:55

you know all of the upheaval all of the

17:56

ridiculousness of jose the last two

17:58

years that locker room was tired

18:01

and uh he didn't do much to unify right

18:04

all they heard was portuguese cold weird

18:07

dude who's gonna kind of make us play

18:09

defensively i just i just i just read an

18:11

athletic jose with a beard he lost his

18:13

team one of his guys who was like the

18:15

the clubhouse guy and he hasn't had him

18:18

so he's even less connected to the team

18:20

you know they nev they they didn't like

18:22

him in the first well not didn't like

18:24

him nobody knows him he you know even

18:25

even in the cane sock he's like i

18:27

haven't talked to harry kane what are

18:28

you doing yeah you should be at his

18:30

[ __ ] house yeah like knocking on the

18:32

door so

18:33

i mean to have but the bigger news is to

18:36

have kante at spurs is just

18:39

that's a big deal this is a nate like

18:42

you know i thought mourinho being at

18:44

spurs was a name brand but it was like a

18:46

tarnished brand and i thought it would

18:48

make a difference but then you know

18:49

there was some good moments it was like

18:51

in the first place

18:52

turned thing around it was cool for a

18:54

minute but i think you know

18:56

maybe there it was very clear

18:59

yeah it was cool there was some things

19:00

that happened and maybe you know if

19:02

mourinho wasn't such a toxic person it

19:05

might have been interesting if they kept

19:06

them around maybe he would have won the

19:07

league cup if they didn't fire him i

19:09

don't know

19:10

it's fine that's cool

19:12

it would have mattered for some people

19:14

no i know argue that i know um

19:17

and then you know you go

19:19

you have the crazy saga to replace him

19:21

which goes really badly um horribly in

19:24

in the midst of in a parallel or in the

19:27

same universe but parallel to that is

19:28

the kane saga right so you have both

19:30

simultaneously you bring in paratici

19:33

what's really going on with that all

19:34

this is this is apparently he's running

19:36

the team for real he that's his job

19:38

right yeah but if he's running the team

19:41

then why didn't he get antonio conte

19:43

four months ago well

19:45

kane was unavailable he didn't know that

19:47

was too much but there were too many

19:48

unknown unknowns right there were a lot

19:50

of unknowns but the problem that

19:52

happened was because kante said no not

19:54

because spurs said no

19:55

right because it was

19:57

they were quibbling and quabbling over

19:59

two million dollars in salary and then

20:02

spur and kante was like wait a minute

20:04

wait a minute

20:05

if you're not gonna pay me how the [ __ ]

20:07

oh you're just gonna do that thing

20:09

you've been doing for the last three

20:10

years and you're just not gonna settle

20:11

for anybody you're not gonna go get a

20:13

quiescent when i tell you that's the guy

20:15

to go get you're not gonna go get an

20:17

erickson replacement or a dumb belly

20:19

replacement you're just going to get me

20:21

a walmart brand of all these

20:22

[ __ ] and tell me to go out

20:23

there and figure it out and that's what

20:25

you're paying me to do that's not going

20:26

to work

20:27

you've proven that it's not going to

20:29

work right and when when mourinho got

20:31

hired

20:32

right and

20:33

it was the same serial winner [ __ ]

20:36

well it was it was an unmovement is

20:38

better than mourinho at this point yes i

20:39

understand but the the man-made

20:41

narrative was it's an unstoppable object

20:43

and an immovable force

20:45

jose has won everywhere he's went and

20:47

spurs are allergic to happiness what

20:49

we'll give well

20:51

we got ourselves we've we've done 20

20:53

minutes of spurs i think that's a lot

20:56

oh i had fair 40 more but yeah let's go

20:58

back to uh

21:00

there are some other

21:04

they were really good games we have ole

21:06

being rescued uh where do you want to go

21:08

do you want to go to my pain or to my

21:11

joy well that's actually the same let's

21:12

go to my other we're going to go to

21:13

liverpool brighton well let me go to my

21:15

other pain because uh let's talk right

21:18

you're lester your leicester bet let's

21:20

talk about the arsenal game um

21:22

because

21:23

as we wean off of the tottenham

21:25

conversation and and the united

21:27

conversation you have to go from uh from

21:29

from spurs to arsenal hatred it's a

21:31

short road right so yeah we have to

21:33

stick in the in the shitty part of north

21:35

london um

21:36

but

21:37

i just i look at the table and i said

21:40

this last week and there's only three

21:41

two teams in the league let me amend

21:43

that slightly because i hate

21:45

quick baby nonsensical

21:47

uh i guess

21:49

ridiculous over the top sayings

21:52

they're not four to twelve isn't bad

21:54

they're just not good right when you

21:57

look at everybody we learned a lot about

21:59

united we learned a lot about spurs well

22:01

i guess we don't we have to start from

22:02

scratch with spurs um

22:04

we learned a lot a little bit about

22:06

arsenal we learned a lot more about

22:07

leicester city this week okay

22:10

leicester city had an expected goals of

22:13

1.85 in this game now i did say that

22:16

leicester moneyline was one of my bets i

22:18

did go pretty hard on it and then at

22:20

half time i took leicester second half

22:22

two so i'm a little bit pissed off at

22:24

lester a little salty but my goodness

22:27

harvey barnes came out at halftime and

22:29

and affected change

22:31

and jamie vardy was good

22:33

but mike oh my god they couldn't hit

22:35

water if they fell out of a [ __ ] boat

22:38

on saturday they were bad in front of

22:40

goal yeah they were normally normally

22:42

they're pretty good so yeah of course

22:44

there were times where they just

22:46

couldn't figure it out but again what i

22:47

mean to say is is that

22:49

lester

22:50

lester should have gotten a point out of

22:52

that and they were down 2-0 after like

22:54

10 minutes right it was some flukey

22:56

goals but from arsenal i will say emil

22:59

smith rowe who we've been talking about

23:00

every time we talk about arsenal now

23:02

he's fantastic he's really really

23:03

putting he's been the glue in the

23:04

midfield they've been missing that for a

23:06

long time i don't like it he scares the

23:08

[ __ ] out of me i also did think i had

23:09

him in fantasy and i had odigard i was

23:11

like [ __ ]

23:12

um

23:14

but uh you have you have neil smith

23:16

anyway um

23:17

i i just

23:19

arsenal

23:20

belong in that 4 to 12 conversation i

23:24

was wrong about them to that extent i'm

23:26

still not going to say they're any good

23:28

i'm still not going to say that they

23:29

deserve to be in the champions league or

23:31

even europa league spots

23:32

but

23:34

in the in the context of who does it's a

23:36

great question they they're they're the

23:39

thing that arsenal have that's different

23:41

from the other group

23:44

of teams you've got the sort of we're on

23:47

the crest of our

23:49

so we have lester is on the crest of

23:51

their team like it's not young it's kind

23:54

of like we're here we need to push

23:56

through yeah you have

23:58

spurs who are

24:00

in a downside of their crest of wherever

24:03

they are birds are the creepy old dude

24:05

who tries to date your 23 year old dog

24:07

yeah yeah they're still wearing the

24:08

stuff from they're wearing they're

24:10

wearing their timbos from the club and

24:11

baggy pants they're still trying to get

24:13

it done and people are like i don't know

24:15

uh you know they're on insta and it's

24:17

uncomfortable they're buying followers

24:19

it's a little weird uh because they

24:21

still have money but you know they're a

24:22

little weird uh you have united who are

24:24

just like the worst version of that but

24:27

they are clearly a class ahead of this

24:28

group they're in the muck but they're

24:30

not in this group west ham are a solid

24:34

group but i don't you wouldn't say

24:36

there's a lot of upside inside you know

24:38

go back to united for a second united

24:39

you're right they're in a totally

24:41

different united should be with city and

24:42

liverpool but no no they are but they're

24:45

the scum of that group they're the guys

24:47

yeah

24:48

god well they also have a bad coach like

24:50

he's he's holding himself right he's

24:52

sleeping he's sleeping outside of his

24:54

mother's house i think he peed all over

24:56

him it's bad it's bad it's bad it's bad

24:59

they're not well they're they're the

25:00

kendall roy of uh

25:03

too much i was like i'm not you stop you

25:05

go back to that yeah it's kendall roy

25:07

that's united they're you know they're

25:08

taking on the old man and uh it's a

25:10

problem but of the group

25:12

arsenal have the most upside they played

25:15

seven players 22 and under

25:18

so that says a lot right that means that

25:21

they can grow that means that they can

25:24

grow together they can get used to each

25:26

other so like even if they finish in

25:28

seventh this season

25:30

and arteta has some but with a couple

25:32

more good wins they can go you know what

25:35

we're all together we're moving he's

25:37

actually got aubameyang and lafayette

25:39

lacazette pressing which is insane

25:41

because they never did and now they are

25:43

yeah okay i was gonna say i didn't

25:45

notice them at all on on saturday um

25:48

well

25:49

they were there they were doing stuff

25:51

they're running but wait it's an

25:53

important context you just said

25:55

i for i'm looking at this season right

25:57

and i think you're on to something i

25:58

think that arsenal are they have a lot

26:00

of building blocks of the future like i

26:01

said you know smith rowe and um

26:04

i just

26:06

if i'm looking at the table this year

26:08

and in the context of qualifying for

26:09

europe next year i don't think they're

26:11

there

26:11

i would prefer

26:13

less i would prefer lots of teams no no

26:16

no what i'm saying is i think

26:18

i think that west ham

26:20

brighton

26:21

lester

26:23

and tottenham is the wild card here are

26:26

are better than them

26:27

from the ball at four four to seven

26:30

range right so that puts them firmly in

26:32

eighth which is where brighton is which

26:35

if if basum is out on bail then i like

26:37

brighton more than them too

26:40

right so brighton my team my secret my

26:42

secret love child team

26:44

uh they go to liverpool after getting

26:47

the doors blown off them by city but

26:49

putting up a really good second half

26:51

this is going down fighting right they

26:52

lost 4-1 but they were like yeah [ __ ]

26:54

you city we'll lose but we're going to

26:56

lose fighting

26:58

yeah this was low-key when we look back

27:00

this is going to be one of the top 10

27:01

games of the season i think but brighton

27:04

really hung in there

27:06

they have good players they have good

27:08

mentality like this is a front line

27:12

of trossard

27:14

gross

27:15

uh solly march this is these are not

27:18

awesome players these are

27:20

journeymen and they get a lot like if

27:22

there's a team getting

27:24

but it it's it's it's indicative of good

27:26

coaching now i understand that there is

27:28

a ceiling right it's it's one thing

27:30

coaching really well at brighton it's

27:32

completely another coaching manchester

27:34

united right so i don't begrudge that

27:37

like you got to walk into the room with

27:39

cristiano and he's got to think you're

27:41

somebody right you can't be a schnook so

27:44

either you have trophies

27:46

because you're nobody like

27:48

let's say brendan rodgers walks into

27:50

manchester united cristiano's not

27:51

listening to him

27:53

okay that's the one thing all he has

27:54

right he's got i was in the champions

27:56

league final i scored a [ __ ] goal i

27:58

played for united i have six trophies

27:59

i'm a real

28:01

person in this game so wait let's pause

28:03

this for a second let's say they go they

28:04

lose three in a row

28:06

and

28:07

they do whatever they do because the

28:08

question i have about united is they got

28:11

into this mess in the first place

28:13

because olay was an interim manager who

28:15

did well especially in europe right yeah

28:18

so

28:20

i'm curious if they're willing to make

28:22

that mistake again or if they're going

28:25

to

28:26

um

28:27

if they're going to wait until the end

28:29

of the season right and then get

28:30

somebody because i don't think that

28:32

there's anybody there that's available

28:34

nobody unless pachatino gets fired

28:37

the person the person

28:39

the best coach available in terms of

28:41

actual coaching like x's and o's know

28:44

like if it's if it's football manager

28:46

and you're just like get to run it the

28:47

coach you want is is potter he just is

28:50

but he's not available is my point he's

28:52

available for manchester united not the

28:54

middle of the season not just

28:56

sure he is but well that's what i'm

28:58

saying is that like i i okay

29:00

in my time i don't know that i've seen

29:02

that right to see a premier league

29:04

coach quit on his team that middle of

29:06

the season to go to a big club

29:09

uh well rogers did it but it was he was

29:12

at celtic going for an undefeated season

29:14

and he left it went to last right

29:16

right yeah that's true but rogers is an

29:18

[ __ ] but uh yeah he did but again

29:21

that's that's not the premier league to

29:22

the premier league right so i understand

29:27

it's probably been done so i'm sure it

29:28

has

29:29

but i don't i'm i'm failing to come up

29:31

with one especially it's not it's not

29:33

it's not recent but but even potter in

29:35

the off season would be a crazy move

29:37

it's not brand enough anyway well

29:39

brighton were incredible thomas frank

29:41

wait let me ask sorry let me get to the

29:43

question i was going to ask you

29:44

if potter or thomas frank walks into

29:46

that room

29:47

and ronaldo and cavani and pogba are

29:50

sitting there staring at him

29:52

is he a schnook or does he have

29:54

something that they're going to listen

29:55

to at least initially because

29:58

they have seen

30:00

what they've done with this much right

30:03

and does ronaldo go hey

30:05

i'm not solly march

30:07

right like i can i can [ __ ] do things

30:10

with you you know what i mean like no i

30:12

understand that i understand are they

30:14

are the players oh yeah right

30:17

is ronaldo are these big players big

30:20

enough to go

30:21

i don't care what you've done can you

30:23

make me better and win this game you

30:25

seem like you know a lot about football

30:28

and will and how long does it take for

30:30

those guys to trust him and go

30:32

oh yeah right like so the thing is like

30:35

we think about pep as being cerebral but

30:37

he's an all-time great player he came in

30:40

with gravitas he wasn't a schnook he was

30:43

part of the super team at barcelona that

30:45

won the champions league for the first

30:47

time under under

30:48

um under under johan cruyff so he's not

30:52

a nobody right so these guys that win

30:54

trophies that you see they're very

30:56

rarely tuckles they're very that's what

30:59

tuko is actually pretty amazing or klopp

31:02

even klopp is a kind of nobody player um

31:05

but

31:06

we didn't have went up the levels right

31:08

toucal went he took a long time they

31:09

bought they went up the levels right so

31:11

they so they're fine

31:13

right right right so that's the thing

31:15

potter needs another step he needs to go

31:18

to

31:19

whatever the club is it needs to be

31:23

traditionally it could be spurs it could

31:24

be everton it could be newcastle it

31:27

could be lester right rogers the jump

31:29

the dominoes could move and he could go

31:31

to leicester

31:32

you know

31:33

that's the thing it's very rare to go

31:35

from one to the other like where did

31:36

pachatino come from we went from he went

31:38

southampton right southampton it's going

31:40

to be newcastle is the next step for

31:41

whoever that is by the way um

31:45

that's the other thing and i'm gonna go

31:46

back to kante for a second because yeah

31:48

i'm just so fascinated the reason why

31:50

they made this move is not because nuno

31:53

was flanking or flunking out after four

31:55

months right i don't believe

31:57

it was more than that

31:59

it was it was it was more than that but

32:01

it was the more the most of it was

32:04

we united's not going to fire olay right

32:06

now they might in the next month

32:08

and newcastle

32:10

and newcastle is just sitting there and

32:12

we know nobody knows what the [ __ ]

32:14

newcastle's up to but we know we our guy

32:16

is out there we have to go get him we

32:18

didn't get him four months ago we have

32:19

to go get him right [ __ ] now before

32:21

somebody else does this time it's very

32:23

smart it's very smart like this is why

32:25

this

32:26

united fans should be crushed right now

32:30

they had a shot

32:32

to get rid of olay not because he's a

32:34

bad guy but because he doesn't know what

32:37

he's doing

32:38

now if he goes and beats city they could

32:40

beat city city could go on a three-game

32:42

losing streak i do not doubt that that

32:44

could happen city just lost to [ __ ]

32:46

crystal palace at home conor gallagher

32:49

kicked the [ __ ] out of them

32:51

wilfred zaha called people [ __ ] and

32:53

tried to throw a punch at grubero jesus

32:56

and we lost on a red card

32:58

you know

32:59

it i'm resigned

33:02

i'm resigned to this but one thing

33:04

that's interesting so uh about that game

33:06

is i i

33:07

you know on our million dollar bets or

33:08

whatever the hell we're calling them are

33:10

crappy bets

33:11

i just threw my hands up and just put 10

33:13

bucks on all the longest of long shots

33:15

so i had plus 1 000 for brighton to win

33:18

at anfield i had uh i had i i had 18.

33:23

newcastle at plus 800

33:25

away at home to to to chelsea and i had

33:29

plus:

33:32

crystal palace because i was like

33:33

whatever i don't know what to do i'll

33:35

win one of these they can't get anybody

33:37

to bet on it yeah

33:39

if

33:39

if i'm honest i did not think that

33:41

crystal palace is gonna win this game

33:43

but

33:44

as a city fan

33:46

i remember the teams that beat us more

33:48

than the teams we beat the teams we beat

33:51

they just sort of fade away and i don't

33:52

even remember the wins look at anything

33:54

there's only a few games that i remember

33:56

but palace andres townsend [ __ ]

33:59

when we had just lost to newcastle i

34:02

remember in the liverpool in the in the

34:04

1819 season which which ended up setting

34:07

up the greatest game of my life

34:09

the the john stones game as it will now

34:12

be known but i i knew

34:14

i knew something about palace and i knew

34:16

they were not a plus:

34:18

right city going into that game had not

34:20

given up a goal at home

34:23

uh they had the best defense in the

34:24

league well now they don't and you know

34:27

they they were coming off a loss to west

34:29

ham on penalties which usually means

34:31

city rarely lose two in a row i mean

34:32

it's like a shock

34:34

and they came out wilford zaha did

34:37

wilford zaha things a dive in by uh

34:39

ruben diaz to try and make a tackle zaha

34:42

scuffs the shot but

34:44

in one of the things city fans know this

34:46

edison has been 10

34:49

less than normal

34:51

interesting he doesn't he doesn't make

34:53

saves that you want him to make where

34:55

you're like we need you buddy you got to

34:56

make this safe

34:58

in nine times out of ton well lately

35:00

he's been

35:01

not doing that whereas allison saves

35:03

[ __ ] goals left and right and makes

35:05

me crazy you're like [ __ ] [ __ ] you uh

35:08

alison but uh edison doesn't make the

35:11

save on a shot could he have saved it

35:13

maybe

35:14

so city down a goal they're pushing

35:16

they're pushing they're pushing the same

35:18

city problems are happening of like

35:20

i have to we we go into the uh bag of

35:23

tricks of what's wrong with city

35:26

we don't have a striker so that happens

35:29

the other thing is there's a lot of

35:31

weird things happening like

35:34

grealish's force of personality is

35:37

forcing city to play more like aston

35:39

villa last season which is weird like

35:41

he's getting the ball and holding on to

35:44

it and like you're like this that we

35:45

don't do this what do you move the ball

35:47

yeah

35:48

he's doing that there's six of you out

35:50

there there's six jack realists out

35:52

there don't do this yeah so he's unique

35:54

he has his own thing and then the unsung

35:57

secret things that all city fans know

35:58

but most people don't is kdb is [ __ ]

36:00

up something's wrong with him yeah

36:02

didn't he [ __ ] up his ankle with the

36:04

euros

36:05

it's but

36:06

you can tell like he limped around the

36:08

pitch coming off at halftime his passes

36:10

are going awry his touches are bad he's

36:12

still getting assists but

36:15

things aren't coming off like

36:17

he needs to be benched there's no

36:19

there's no joy well just sit him down

36:21

right like

36:22

he doesn't even look happy and he looks

36:24

of bloated like he's on painkillers like

36:27

it's not it's not a good look for him

36:29

because he's never he was never

36:31

ripped or cut or like had something

36:32

about him he basically looks like a pig

36:34

like a pink pig that's what my wife

36:36

calls him

36:38

he looks like a pig that's running

36:39

around out there and he the pig is

36:41

looking bloated so that's not good so

36:44

city are i think there's a little bit of

36:47

even though city won the league last

36:48

year i don't think anyone

36:51

this is it's weirdly in transition like

36:53

there was a lot of players that left

36:56

over the last couple years no silva no

36:58

company we feel like companies replaced

37:00

with diaz but

37:01

there's some

37:03

growing pains happening that are weird

37:05

like

37:06

when grealish moves to the middle will

37:08

be the next thing to ask the question

37:09

for like when does he take de bruyne

37:11

spot instead of out on the wing right

37:13

because that's gonna happen because then

37:15

you can bring sterling back in where

37:16

he's supposed to play so you can go mar

37:18

foden's basically taking over the nine

37:20

spot which is [ __ ] weird which i

37:22

called and i didn't say you called for

37:24

that though

37:26

he's the only guy who can shoot yeah

37:28

he's the only guy who will shoot is even

37:30

worse

37:31

but he can't get into the box because he

37:33

just gets

37:34

they just hammer his ass um so city lose

37:38

they're off the pace and if we're you

37:40

know we were talking about this before

37:41

the show for narrative's sake

37:44

the whole air around united has been

37:47

ridiculous

37:48

and a little bit crazy and i've talked

37:50

about olay and we've done whole shows

37:52

about ronaldo and all these things

37:55

they are one game different than city

37:58

yeah for

37:59

a fraction of the discussion

38:02

right so i get it united states aren't

38:05

fun to talk about correct they're not

38:07

fun to talk about exactly they're boring

38:09

city are boring there's only pep

38:11

and there's only what happens on the

38:12

field so

38:15

my team

38:16

struggles if they if they're not get

38:18

they're in they'll be top four but i i

38:20

don't

38:21

really

38:23

i don't know that we have a clear

38:25

favorite aside from who's actually at

38:26

the top of the table right now

38:28

between liverpool city and chelsea

38:30

they're all much better than everyone

38:32

else but yeah of course so i what i'll

38:35

say about liverpool is that i think they

38:36

currently look like the best club uh in

38:38

the league and i understand

38:40

goals

38:41

but they are shipping goals like crazy

38:43

we talked about it on uh whenever the

38:45

[ __ ] they played saturday sunday that

38:47

they're very 13 14-ish uh they're very

38:51

uh suarez liverpool year um

38:54

but

38:55

the main difference better than that but

38:57

yeah the difference is that like you

38:59

alluded to allison bails them out

39:02

sometimes um they're still shipping

39:04

goals obviously but uh that and they're

39:06

and to be fair

39:07

their midfield is missing

39:09

right it's henderson yeah yeah but the

39:11

thing is that

39:14

you almost can't count anymore he gets

39:16

so hurt so [ __ ] much so

39:18

keta mane salah gonna be gone pretty

39:22

soon for basically two months

39:24

you can't call liverpool the favorite

39:26

right now you just can't

39:29

no i understand well i understand i mean

39:31

again look it's chelsea on 25 liverpool

39:34

on 22 city and 20. the

39:37

venerable west ham come on you have to

39:40

count them i suppose um

39:42

but listen you you

39:45

sleep on manchester city at your own

39:47

peril well i'm not gonna i'm not gonna

39:49

sleep on them i'm just saying begging

39:50

you saying the larger the larger group

39:52

but as it stands right now it's it's

39:55

chelsea's to lose and i do think that i

39:57

don't think that they'll finish there

39:58

but i mean five points clear after ten

40:00

games is a nice start right i mean they

40:03

it's another good thing is

40:04

even when they don't score they don't

40:06

give anything up they don't give up

40:07

three goals against

40:09

and and this is this needs to be said

40:11

because

40:12

they've been working with a makeshift

40:14

backline couple of injuries couple

40:16

players moving in and out um we talked

40:18

about it on the show a lot i took them

40:20

as a draw to win a couple weeks ago

40:22

which didn't work when they put up seven

40:25

on norwich and i was right this time

40:28

about newcastle they'd start slow they'd

40:30

struggle a little bit they'd find their

40:31

form and they'd get the points that's

40:33

exactly what happened that's a [ __ ]

40:34

week off um

40:36

but that's exactly

40:38

what they are right now right um they

40:41

haven't beaten anybody good i don't i'm

40:43

gonna look at their fixtures in a second

40:45

here i don't know what's waiting ahead

40:46

of them uh well look at that they've got

40:49

burnley then they take on lester juve

40:53

who they lost to the first time around

40:54

in the champions league united

40:57

chelsea yeah

40:59

and then watford is a win and then chels

41:01

uh west ham so those are those are some

41:03

big games coming up so the other thing

41:05

about chelsea that makes them different

41:07

from

41:08

the other clubs is

41:10

they are outperforming their expected

41:12

goals like they're getting the luck

41:14

they're plus 10 on goals four

41:16

on expected goals 17 they have 26. and

41:19

they're plus seven

41:21

unexpected goals against so they're

41:23

getting lucky or good or both

41:26

so they're playing well and they've had

41:28

the best defense in the league should be

41:30

cities but it's not

41:31

look they've had a lot of softness i

41:33

guess you know

41:34

a decent no they they've been critical

41:36

rich

41:37

yeah but they've been clinical in both

41:40

defense south hampton those are their

41:42

last full games yeah but they're

41:43

clinical in defense and attack right

41:46

when you meet what i mean by clinical

41:47

and defense is like

41:48

they should get [ __ ] off the line

41:50

they'll save their asses you're like

41:52

what that mendy the brentford game they

41:55

they that's that's a loss like that

41:57

should never have happened yes

41:59

absolutely and they got the bounces in

42:02

that one and realistically of those four

42:03

games that's the only one that they were

42:04

really ever in danger on right so

42:06

southampton brentford norwich and

42:08

chelsea i'm sorry newcastle um they all

42:11

know that we should have lost the

42:12

liverpool game let's be fair that was

42:14

under they were under attack right and

42:16

so now we're sitting here

42:17

they're five points clear they've got a

42:19

bit of a stretch coming up where they're

42:20

gonna be tested we're gonna find out a

42:22

lot more about chelsea uh for their own

42:24

sake you know if they're if they're

42:25

healthier than they are right now by

42:27

then then that'll bode well for them but

42:29

um the next 30 days for them is going to

42:31

be interesting so we're going to learn a

42:32

lot more about that's the difference

42:34

though they're not going to ship goals

42:36

they're winning without lukaku scoring

42:38

yeah but they're not for wanting for

42:40

goals though right so those goals are

42:41

just going other places which is sort of

42:43

i think your point but it's not like

42:45

it's not like lukaku is going to come

42:47

into this team and give them more

42:49

scoring i think they don't need it they

42:51

have

42:52

i think the number is 16 different goal

42:54

scorers yeah they're averaging 2.6 a

42:56

game

42:57

and granted that's that's you know seven

43:00

against norwich but um

43:03

still that's two goals that's that's two

43:05

goals a game right so um

43:09

i'm not saying that lukaku will or won't

43:11

do anything for this team what i'm just

43:12

saying that he

43:14

won't give them

43:16

something that they're currently missing

43:18

right yeah um

43:19

but no and it's not not a slight on

43:22

anybody at all it's in fact it's a it's

43:23

a testament to chelsea's depth to be

43:25

able like i said 16 different goal

43:26

scorers however they are the deepest of

43:28

all the teams they are the deepest

43:31

which is so weird when you're in a

43:32

league with manchester city but it's

43:34

true it's definitely true i mean no but

43:37

city have depth but they have depth in

43:40

the same place like they have 14

43:42

different midfields they could play

43:43

right right but they don't have depth

43:45

and defense in the same way that

43:48

sure but in the same well nor to chelsea

43:50

really and that's kind of what we're

43:51

finding out it's working because of the

43:52

unit but it's not necessarily yeah but

43:54

they roll up they roll out that kid's

43:55

sar and he leads the team in tackles

43:58

like they just

43:59

city don't just roll a dude out and he's

44:02

good sure like when city rolled a kid

44:04

out he gets annihilated yeah yeah or

44:07

like but it doesn't even have to be a

44:08

kid when nathan aka plays city ship

44:10

goals because

44:12

the precision of city

44:14

is unforgiving right you cannot make

44:16

mistakes it doesn't work like it feels

44:18

like tuckles

44:20

has more give in the system and that

44:22

give is almost always in goal of content

44:25

right

44:26

show me the team that gets that doesn't

44:27

win without angola

44:29

and i'll show you a good manager i do

44:31

want to cover y'all go ahead i was going

44:33

to say quickly on west ham because they

44:35

are fourth in the table here uh they

44:37

batter the [ __ ] out of a falling

44:39

free-falling aston villa they're in

44:41

trouble four in a row they've lost yeah

44:43

so so quickly on them they're in 15th

44:46

um three points clear of 18th place

44:48

burnley by the way so i don't think

44:50

we're gonna have to down there i don't

44:52

think yeah i don't think we're gonna

44:52

have time to get into the relegation

44:53

battle we'll talk about it on thursday

44:55

but there's some friends down there that

44:57

we're worried about but conversely at

44:59

the top end of the table

45:01

fourth place west ham tied with city on

45:04

20 points

45:06

i've i've been saying that i've been

45:07

waiting for the european hangover to

45:09

start hitting them it hasn't yet they're

45:11

not deep enough to really do this for

45:14

forever but

45:17

i mean like basically have

45:18

one guy off the bench lanzini right and

45:21

yeah sometimes the arm along goes yeah i

45:23

got you on my lego but

45:25

now the thing i like about west ham

45:28

is

45:29

one i

45:31

i when i posted something

45:33

if moyes had never got the what the

45:36

job he'd be in line for the united job

45:38

um

45:39

they're running their guys out there

45:40

right so in the league they have four

45:42

players who've played every game of

45:44

every minute

45:45

so rice agbana fabianski and creswell

45:48

have not missed the game uh suck has

45:51

missed

45:52

12 minutes

45:54

before now's has missed 18 minutes like

45:57

these dudes are playing

46:00

right like if you go look at their list

46:02

there's just dudes that aren't playing

46:04

ever right like just like guys who are

46:06

famous like issa diopsi bye never see

46:08

you again most of them are gonna go play

46:10

in international duty in a couple weeks

46:11

coming up here in about 10 days they've

46:13

got liverpool on sunday they've got the

46:16

international break a good wolves team

46:17

on the road they've got one of those

46:19

euro european games and then they go to

46:22

the etihad we and brighton again and

46:24

then chelsea holy [ __ ] they're in

46:27

trouble again they got to win they got

46:29

to win those games

46:31

they're good this is not meant to be

46:33

disrespectful west ham they're a good

46:35

side in fact i would argue they're going

46:37

to finish in one of the european sides

46:39

places again sure they're going to

46:40

finish in europe they

46:42

i'm selling high on west ham right now i

46:45

am pushing all of it as far away from it

46:47

as i can and you know what i'm gonna

46:49

pick it back up after the burnley match

46:52

on december 12th

46:54

for pennies on the dollar yeah no i west

46:56

ham were a stock you sell it right now

46:59

yeah of course i mean i don't i mean

47:00

they faded at the end of last season as

47:02

well but they did go to europe they did

47:04

make the european places last year they

47:06

don't have depth and i think that that's

47:08

known you know they really really really

47:11

need another striker badly like if

47:14

antonio goes down

47:16

they're in trouble yeah like they don't

47:18

really have another person to score

47:20

goals but i like them i mean i think

47:22

that

47:23

anyone who watches west ham

47:27

if you watch them for any amount of time

47:29

there is a spirit in this team

47:32

that is really infectious like you saw

47:35

the kids score the goal uh against

47:38

against the run against um against aston

47:40

villa and the whole team runs to him and

47:43

they all dance with him together i mean

47:45

it was really cool i think it's uh yeah

47:48

is it ben johnson not the runner and

47:50

they all come out to him and that that

47:52

[ __ ] matters right you notice

47:55

teams that go through the motions

47:57

celebrating

47:58

right mackel antonio has a dance for

48:00

everybody and city

48:03

when i see city score goals they kind of

48:05

get together and they turn their heads

48:07

away from each other like

48:09

pep has said you guys go hug each other

48:11

and be near each other but they don't

48:12

really give a [ __ ]

48:14

and you know united is

48:16

is is is ronaldo running around and

48:18

jumping on his own they have some good

48:20

spirit i think united to be fair but you

48:22

know you notice when teams get off the

48:23

bench or don't don't get with each other

48:25

but this team has spirit i like i've i

48:28

like moyes i don't know

48:31

how much

48:32

damage was done to him when he lost that

48:35

united job because he really sputtered

48:37

for a while he did he had sunderland he

48:40

had real sociodad when he became david

48:42

moyes the great moyes

48:44

in spain i commend them for going

48:46

because it's hard to do

48:48

well he had that whole like sex uh

48:50

sexual abuse thing or like sexual

48:52

harassment thing excuse me no he was

48:54

just being scottish that's what i'm

48:56

saying that's why he [ __ ] off to spain

48:58

for a little while he needed to keep a

48:59

low profile

49:01

uh but but what i was trying to drive at

49:03

is my guy there's a lot of guys in west

49:05

ham that i like like i've called out

49:07

syed berahama from the championship

49:09

where he was a he was a brantford guy in

49:11

early brentford and then my other friend

49:14

um mr bowen who had 20 goals at the half

49:18

for hull two seasons ago and and jumped

49:22

ship

49:23

to the premier league as they went down

49:25

uh he doesn't score goals as much in the

49:27

premier league but he's a worker and he

49:29

drew the he drew the penalty uh there

49:32

was a lot of uh dogs though today a lot

49:34

of var a lot of var stuff i don't like i

49:36

hate the ar it's boring to say i don't

49:39

want it i don't like it on spain i don't

49:41

like it on tuesdays i don't like it in

49:42

the rain i don't like var i don't want

49:44

it i want to get rid of it because city

49:46

would have drawn our game if we didn't

49:47

[ __ ] have it but you wouldn't have

49:49

won

49:50

what you wouldn't have won

49:52

yeah well maybe maybe yeah the red card

49:55

was not a var red card they just gave it

49:57

to me like get the [ __ ] out of here

49:59

uh i do want to go through really

50:01

quickly just to make sure we don't leave

50:03

any of our friends out uh our our former

50:06

girlfriend from leeds we broke up but uh

50:08

they won a game i wish her well she's

50:11

doing okay they're above the relegation

50:13

zone they needed that one they needed

50:15

that and then burnley

50:17

i don't know what brentford got drunk at

50:19

a party and got beat up at you know

50:22

brentford got roofied okay brentford got

50:24

ronaldo now i do i do this is one thing

50:27

to watch for

50:29

they have a backup keeper and raya was

50:32

really good and

50:34

you can't they don't look like

50:35

goalkeeping mistakes but the thing i

50:37

noticed about their keeper was he was in

50:40

the wrong place so the shots would come

50:43

and they would just go over him or past

50:45

him and you're like why was he there

50:47

right he's in his positioning was bad

50:49

for both for two of the goals he came

50:51

too far out and allowed uh wood to chip

50:54

him or it was a good shot but maybe had

50:57

he been sitting deeper maybe he would

50:59

have gotten it maybe raya would have got

51:00

it so these are the things like they

51:02

don't look like goalkeeping errors but

51:04

if you watch a team enough you're like

51:05

that guy's not where he's supposed to be

51:07

yeah

51:08

he was coming too far out so i will

51:10

worry for brentford they're very much a

51:11

tight-knit unit where every guy is

51:14

important and you know these teams that

51:16

come up they don't have depth and i

51:17

could see benford having a really hard

51:20

time until their keeper comes back

51:23

so be worried for them

51:25

i am worried

51:28

we we got champions league we cut

51:31

norwich loose

51:32

um they're gone

51:34

uh newcastle united getting relegated

51:36

before they get their players in would

51:38

be [ __ ] amazing

51:39

and um i think it would be that is that

51:42

aside from everton i do have one thing

51:44

to watch for everton

51:46

do the fans turn on rafa and he jumped

51:49

ship to newcastle

51:51

yeah i mean they don't make sense i want

51:53

him there

51:54

no and he would be deliverable with open

51:56

arms

51:57

no they would take him back at newcastle

52:00

tomorrow yeah

52:02

i wonder if that conversation is

52:04

happening i wonder manager to be fired

52:07

the manager yeah the manager carousel is

52:09

going to be super interesting to see and

52:10

like that's another one that would just

52:12

that's

52:13

if he were fired then then hired that's

52:16

different than just jumping ship from

52:18

premier league teams from reality team

52:19

but

52:20

yeah are you sure

52:21

what is what is the manager

52:24

carousel going to look like in say it's

52:26

it's november 2nd

52:28

uh

52:29

january 2nd in two months right right

52:31

after the at the end of the festive

52:33

period

52:34

um

52:35

do teams like

52:37

you know

52:39

i think i think it's like average and

52:40

have rangers do

52:42

i think if leeds is in trouble beyonce

52:43

will walk

52:46

yeah he's weird he'll just jump

52:49

yeah and then they'll go down

52:51

yeah yeah that'll be it for leeds for a

52:52

while

52:53

yeah they're gonna be tough to yeah

52:56

i mean there's one the stream of points

52:57

is really it's still very early there's

52:59

no reality i have my eye on rafinha

53:03

oh you should have your eye on your feet

53:06

if he goes down

53:07

if they go down he's he's who i want

53:11

that would be fun he's really really

53:13

good that would be really fun really

53:15

good [ __ ] italians are going to buy

53:17

everybody from syria but i want i want

53:18

rafinha

53:20

it's interesting they like almost only

53:23

they exclusively target players that

53:24

juventus has or targeted in the last

53:27

four years i'm like cool great guys

53:30

how is juventus going not great have you

53:32

looked at this area table they're in

53:33

[ __ ] eighth place so yeah maybe

53:36

how did salernatana do verse napoli oh

53:39

they came close uh they lost one nil in

53:41

a late late goal hey

53:44

that way you're top of the table right

53:45

now that's i know it's a weird it's a

53:46

weird season yeah and they could win

53:48

they've been waiting for this season

53:50

if i could have gotten a point out of

53:52

the table toppers oh that would have

53:54

been it that would have been a drug i

53:56

haven't had yet all right mike let's

53:58

wrap this one up we're running out yes

54:00

one question to leave you with

54:03

who gets the new manager boost from

54:05

antonio conte and

54:07

who does kante try to do the reverse

54:09

spree well and choke him to death

54:11

he's gonna kill

54:13

one of these french guys or dele alli

54:17

okay okay he's gonna kill sanchez he's

54:19

gonna play sanchez because he likes the

54:21

way he runs and his athleticism and then

54:23

he's going to kill him when he falls

54:25

down on his own face yeah i think i see

54:27

him they only have one well aside from

54:29

loris they only have one french guy left

54:31

because they let orier leave for

54:32

literally no money whatsoever so maybe

54:35

they'll just sign him back so he can

54:36

kill him but you're right i think my

54:38

pick was going to be in dominic um

54:41

it's weird

54:42

the answer is for me is almost both for

54:44

indomie but um

54:47

i think it'll be lucas mora because i

54:49

think that he's going to settle into

54:51

that role

54:52

in the 10 and then shoot out wide

54:54

sometimes on the counter i think he

54:56

could be the guy that really takes off

54:58

or maybe he plays the victor moses role

55:00

and just becomes a wing back

55:02

that's entirely possible too

55:05

kante is very very creative the guys

55:08

that were in places they'll be in

55:10

different places there's been so much

55:11

talk about so much dead wood and this

55:13

and that about spurs like they're not

55:15

this guy he'll find use for them

55:17

well this is the thing he either will or

55:19

he's going to kill them and just be like

55:21

just don't even [ __ ] come tomorrow um

55:24

so i'm just there it's going to be a

55:26

wacky wacky ride for spurs i'm excited

55:29

for it because you know what it's it the

55:31

product on the field was not worth

55:32

watching so this is actually more fun

55:34

for me and kante is attacking don't

55:35

listen to the defensive thing they're

55:37

fun yeah his teams are fun like oh he's

55:40

but he's he's just unpredictable i have

55:42

no idea what to think so he's gonna i

55:44

mean i know and run up and down i know

55:46

it's good but i have no idea what to

55:47

expect i should say so i'm excited for

55:49

it and let's jump in once once more

55:51

under the breach when he gets his suit

55:52

with the [ __ ] cockrell on it he's

55:54

gonna look [ __ ] awesome and his wig

55:56

or his glued on hair whatever he's doing

55:58

his cigarettes and his gum

56:00

and that was that was uh that was the

56:02

other one it doesn't matter let's get

56:03

the [ __ ] out of here all right that was

56:05

the squeaky bum time podcast with mike

56:08

salerno and lauren cortese we are the

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and we represent at least 10 percent of

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sure to subscribe wherever you get your

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please rate and review the show i want

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to thank my sister shimonji wrote a

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review and my cousin gillian who listens

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in france who i did not know was

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listening to my show so respect for the

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corteans family kick an ass

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we'll be back

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yeah we attempt

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