In Episode #132 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Mike and Laurent discuss the very not-in-the-face but also in-the-face thrashing Chelsea handed Tottenham in the first leg of the Carabao Cup. Also:
- Mike questions Manchester United fans who are celebrating the announcement of CEO Ed Woodward’s impending departure.
- We go through a rapid-fire preview of ALL the FA Cup games!
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Transcript
hello and welcome to the squeaky bum
time podcast with mike and laurent it is
friday january 7th the day after the
insurrection in this episode chelsea
stomp spurs lukaku is back on side man
united is in bus drawing mode but first
mike you came around in the carabao cup
they got you you were ready and then uh
spurs
are uh did the thing
that you know i know you don't like the
word this is fursy
we were saying right before we recorded
that uh i i felt like tony soprano
they so screwed you they [ __ ] me they
[ __ ] me i literally i was like i was
watching that game but not even that
game i was watching the first five
minutes of that game and the second the
ball left jaffa tanganga's foot in the
fourth minute of the game
i and it goes in and i just felt like
tony and therapy like those
[ __ ] those
[ __ ] and i just i just
why did i let them do this
you you decided you decided by the way
we'll get into it but i do i'm gonna do
quick go through all the [ __ ] i don't
think there's any that many others i'm
just gonna run through it as fast as i
can and give me put a minute on the
clock swindon plays manchester city
tomorrow at noon noon mansfield town
middlesborough that's a lot of m's
hearty pool blackpool someone's gonna
jump in the pool it's not gonna be me
fulham bristol city i don't know where
those two teams play burnley versus
huddlesfield those are two terrible
places no one ever wants to go coventry
versus derby county that's a fun game
wayne rooney is the coach of the year in
england by the way check them out they
have a 21-point deficit they might get
out of the relegation zone [ __ ] you
newcastle coventry they wear sky blue i
like them in the most violent game of
the round millwall at home against
crystal palace there will be violence
no one likes us we don't care
newcastle cambridge united i don't know
what's going on there uh trippy has
signed petersboro bristol don't know
what that's going on there barnsley vs
barrow barrow is in the middle of
nowhere and they make submarines there
that is a cool town west brom versus
brighton and a battle of teams that used
to be in the championships and but now
they're not but west brom might be back
to play brighton again interesting
lester versus watford that's a premier
league game oh i didn't even notice that
the kitty minster harriers vs redding
wow kitty minster they're back hey
redding those are my friends
yeah port vale versus brantford i don't
know where port vale is but i like their
name wigan [ __ ] you wiggin i hate you
i'll always hate you wiggin athletic vs
blackburn rovers be on the lookout for
brereton diaz the man who became a
chilean amazing player qpr versus
rothenham i don't know where rotherham
is but i like qpr west london boreham
wood versus afc wimbledon boreham wood
funny name wimbledon a cool scene first
dick joke of the show
hey
that's what i've got borah we have a
counter
hall city versus evilton hall city very
good in this competition made it to the
final against
arsene wenger many years ago it was the
first time chatter in 10 years
chelsea versus chesterfield chesterfield
are
13 unbeaten top of the national league
they get a big payday good for
chesterfield same place as the
cigarettes come from probably not uh
birmingham city versus plymouth argyle i
hear you can get good socks there it's
not the same i made that up swansea vs
southampton south coast lots of s's i
like that game not gonna watch it
yourville town versus bournemouth yeovil
is on the south coast bournemouth on the
south coast that is a very pleasant game
yeovil town is a very
pretty seaside town if you ever go to
england i recommend going to yeovil
luton harrogate don't know stoke late
norian hey eddie hearn cardiff city
preston preston north end oldest team in
england charlton norwich don't know much
about charton but they are in london
wolves sheffield united there's gonna be
overlapping fullbacks and guys doing
weird stuff oh now that's their old
coach this is a different sheffield
united i don't know what they're up to
west ham versus leeds hey that's a
premier league game way to go tottenham
versus morgan we talked about the
shrimps and they're more come simon that
was for you very funny
dirt she sent dirty pictures afterwards
not of herself
but you know that's my sister that would
be good really important really
important distinction
liverpool versus shrewsbury shoot the
shrews get to go to liverpool and play
good for them nottingham forest verse
arsenal in the battle of reds the
two-time european champions nottingham
forest get them they get to play arsenal
and we round off the fa cup third round
one of the most glorious and biggest
days in english football with man united
vs aston villa and i will tell you this
villain's gonna beat united because they
are in disarray and we'll get after that
after you talk about spurs
do i have to yes i do and here's why our
friend andrew hellman uh in uh the
squeaky bum time facebook group
called me from the icl firm yes he's a
double uh
it's funny because um i had a
realization yesterday when i saw
andrew's comment uh in the group that we
are effectively
are like him watching spurs [ __ ] the bet
in the manner that they did and being a
fan of the show and knowing that i am
his first supporter he immediately felt
the shine fraud that i so often feel
when arsenal lose and i tune in to
arsenal fan tv it's been a great season
for me for united i love only out we got
like miles
and hours and hours of olay out but so
what i had the horrifying
and sort of honored
feeling was that i'm somebody's arsenal
fan tv
that's a lot to take in for a spur
supporter
not
good enough robbie
it's got to go
i i am uh
no but they all do i am just i'm
horrified and we got to give the people
what they want so
from top to bottom here are your squeaky
bum time
tottenham hotspur player ratings for the
first leg of the carabao cup semi-final
you're not out remember that no no no no
i didn't say we were i just want all of
these players out now if you've listened
to the show a lot you know that i'm not
overly dramatic in like these guys gotta
go or whatever
but there's guys seven players on the
field i think i want to keep maybe three
of them okay okay so here we go i'm
getting the catapult out i'm gonna shoot
the following players into the [ __ ]
sun okay
jaffa tanganga i feel bad because he's a
kid and he was putting a tough spot
into the catapult you go
boom he's gone okay by the way he was at
fault for both goals the pass to emerson
was short he telegraphed it and [ __ ]
along was on it like a flash
yeah yeah yeah by the way that was such
an obvious when the lineups came out and
we're playing this and alonzo is going
to be in an advanced position with
tanganga basically on that side you knew
that he was going to just abuse
tottenham for 90 minutes that's exactly
what happened
um he's been great [ __ ] hate him
dude like i was sweating like marcus
alonso playing mario kart that was
horrible for 90 minutes um but actually
i wasn't cause i was sitting there and i
was like you know what after two nothing
i just kind of like hello darkness my
old friend i just kind of sat there like
george costanza in the in the [ __ ]
couch just like yep yep the [ __ ]
sprinkled potato chip crumbs all over my
[ __ ] chest
uh it was bad
davidson sanchez had a
i'm gonna say this this is ridiculous he
had a good game and he was a victim of
his surroundings like we were talking
about with liverpool and
and chelsea
where where van dijk was only be able to
do so much because kanate was nowhere to
be seen the rest of tottenham's defense
was nowhere to be seen dave sanchez was
the only guy back there he was like can
i [ __ ] get some help from somewhere
are we calling him dave we use dave
sanchez i i like calling him dave he's a
friend of mine you know i call him what
the [ __ ] i want all right
so ben davies is going to get
scapegoated here
he's got to go and it's not fair he does
have to go he's a good rotational player
like for for a side like this
but my god we have to talk about his
face
uh the hello darkness my old friend
when the ball goes off of tanganga's
forehead off of his forehead and
honestly it was a great shot bang into
the net too
the thing was is again tengan like
tenganga had time tanganga did not have
to clear it that way there was a easier
clearance yeah he just he needed a shout
he needed someone to say leave it there
was no one around and he cut and davis
is just saying is that is that chelsea
didn't chelsea created and were dominant
and all this stuff it was just two
little goals like it wasn't
no they weren't i would say that they
were fine they were a beatable side they
did not play their nearly their best
lineup um
but there was just they were so dominant
though like you couldn't get the ball
but you would just hit the ball because
you had you didn't even let me start
getting going into this team matt
doherty at the left wing back i suppose
he's a right-handed a right-footed
player he's playing left-back
because we're not playing reggie on for
for reasons okay that's fine um he was
putrid again
um he literally looks like he's
forgotten how to play the sport like i
think mourinho broke him oh mourinho
broke him right in half but the thing is
is that mourinho sold kyle walker peters
to get to our next victim pierre emerick
hoibier he was bad oh
and then replaced kyle walker peters
with matt doherty so i just we're going
to talk a little bit more about jose in
the in the later part of the show when
we get back to united but i just
hoibear who we've sung praises on for a
while
it's just well it's just too many games
fine but the knives were out for him and
the weird thing is that he looks
remember at the euros where he was like
a top five player in the whole
tournament yeah because denmark is
awesome i mean but he was one of the
main reasons that denmark was pushing on
right and like yeah he just
all the matches i think i think the
thing the thing that i notice as i'm
looking at the lineups is
chelsea had one it was one of these
things where we don't notice it because
we're not
sophisticated enough and you're watching
the game you're feeling the emotion
whatever
what you could tell
was chelsea seemed to have an extra man
all the time
and what they were doing was and mount
seemed to be free all the time it was
either mount or alonso because of the
way they were set up they
it seemed that chelsea had the five men
in the back the midfield's empty the
three at the front are pressing but that
left skip and hoiberg on their own and
any time royale went with mason mount
alonzo went behind him anytime he went
to alonzo mount found a space in between
so they were just banging the ball
around there was no way for spurs
to look good in this game and i suppose
i didn't really watch much of the second
half uh but i would i would i would
support i mean i'm sure spurs played
better it's just natural
i mean okay spurs played better in the
second half in the context of the fact
that they didn't put a ball off of their
own player's face and into their own
[ __ ] net okay and they had shots on
goal uh sure
i believe they had two
they did they had two so like i mean
they got pantsed the entire game um
and and i think skip was fine i'm not
going to give skip any [ __ ] i thought
skip was fine too i think he just was
trying to run around i think cover for
spaces where they they just chased
shadows it was and at the master class
like at the front end of the field lucas
was doing actually a very similar job as
skip only more advanced uh emerson
is
he's fine he's not good but he he's his
ceiling is low
so
see see i watched i watched it back for
a particular reason i wanted to because
i saw the first half stats i was like
what the [ __ ] happened
it wasn't lack of effort in this game no
spurs were running
spurs were getting after guys
it just seemed like
like i said when chelsea got the ball
they had it for 15 for five minutes and
whenever spurs got the ball it was two
passes and a [ __ ] up and if and if kane
got a hold of the ball there were three
guys on him right or if any of the front
right if any of the front players got on
the ball
someone was on them and then i felt like
i felt like doherty
was bad and emerson seemed to make a bad
pass and balls coming out of the back
were bad like the the build up attempts
by buy spurs were so bad and it really
came down to
when
spurs aren't deep enough yet
to not have
dire in the lineup you you realize oh
dyer makes good passes yeah right even
though he's slow and pretty headed
banging on dyer for what feels like
years is terrible
he's come along believe it or not and
then he can but he can pass the ball
right he can move the ball and then
sanchez in the middle of the three
it's not where he should be he needs to
be on the on the side of one so
everything got disjointed and spurs just
got whacked and it didn't really help
one of the reasons they got
kicked in they're not good enough
well of course
but
i'm gonna call him out because he's
getting along because he's friends with
tom [ __ ] holland hyundai son has been
invisible and awful for two months
you know what's hilarious is that
spurs i guess i think everybody must get
a representative for this
spurs nominated sunny for the premier
league player of the month today and i
went what the [ __ ] are you watching
because he's been
awful
awful he never gets [ __ ] from anyone but
he has been
so bad and honestly you could go back to
last season
right around christmas
so almost 365 days because he had that
obviously torrid start with kane and
they were unbelievable they were banging
in everything but then he sort of
started to tail off and then he went
just flat
flatlined right
and kane and hit and he and king don't
sync up anymore it's as if something
were to happen between two of them now
like you said
the only like two or three good balls
i've seen the whole game one was from
loris who by the way god bless him he
gets a 10 out of 10 just for [ __ ]
having to be behind all these morons
i love him and i am so sorry hugo please
don't ever leave us david
uh ben davey's face gets an
8. yeah absolutely but his play was a
four oh yeah kane was bad but it was
like what did you expect what do you
want him to do right how much further
back do you want him to d to drop and
the funny thing is there were a couple
of
times in in that game he needed to drop
in defensively
right
because so because he couldn't do his
[ __ ] job well because they were
outnumbered and and
uh saul and georginio
and they just were ping ping ping they
just there was nothing there was nothing
so it's very clear that you need help in
the middle of the park and so at
halftime you bring on tangy and dominate
it was fine who i've said
many times on the show is the most
talented player on the field almost all
of the time he's playing
on both teams and and that was true he
was he was he he breathed some life into
the side and again it's a two leg affair
if you got one back you're right back in
it you're going home you have a shot
um just nothing came from it
but now going into the second leg i'm
like you you have to start in dominate
fully knowing he may he may he may he
may think that he's going to get a
transfer by now and then i would hope so
but but i i
he's going to [ __ ] hit the stop
button be like i don't want to play
anymore i do want to give some
respect to chelsea one they played
really well they carried over how they
played versus liverpool they actually
played well even though they they drew
that game uh i thought ziech was really
good uh havertz was good lukaku i have
to say that tukol even though it became
a drama he gets
he gets respect for he gets lukaku to
apologize to the team on a [ __ ]
prison video and then brings him on side
didn't i tell you i would do that and
now he looks like a [ __ ] man
management genius that team now will
respect him always be like don't [ __ ]
with me yeah i will [ __ ] you
didn't i
i will drop you in the biggest game of
the year listen we gave two girls [ __ ] i
think on the last show or maybe one
before that and
but i said he's gonna play i thought he
would score i was surprised and he
missed a sitter or two but i i mean i
had lukaku scoring and chelsea winning i
thought it was going into this he was i
was excited but i thought we would lose
i did not think we would have uh uh
and here's the thing we're not going to
score three at home without chelsea's
score yeah have you scored three at home
all year yeah yeah against norwich but
like doesn't matter no it doesn't count
but my point is we're not going to get
three without chelsea getting one so
not that and i don't think away goals
counts so i think it goes straight to
penalties it does it does it does that's
all you need fine game on if you score
three if you win three one at home then
you have like a coin flip chance i guess
[ __ ] it why not [ __ ] it and then i did
notice that
one thing i did notice with uh keppa
he's a good passer
yeah no i think that was an underrated
thing at
chelsea being really pacey
and coming back at you really quickly
because there was a lot of long balls
and he'd get it and boom fire it right
into
soul and turn right back into the attack
and you'd be like this team is set up
though with lucas and sunny especially
with alonzo and and mount and georgino
sort of getting forward there was so
much room if you could get couldn't
sting anything together i know
and then worker is a [ __ ] and
sar i don't know who he is but he's a
bad [ __ ] too man they haven't
yet but he could be exposed sure sure
sure but uh i do want to go into
um another uh a team that used to wait
sorry i've got nothing
man united is back
and they are throwing their coach under
the bus
so if you haven't noticed they had a
poor game against uh against wolves and
i think rang nick is finally seeing
a [ __ ]
this is not shelka this is not germany
this is not red bull this is not some
little podunk oh we did this cool
project this is manchester united
and the players run the asylum and
apparently
there got the knives out for him the
players are unhappy
you know the quest the presses now kind
of going oh what has rang nick ever done
is that's the problem right if he tries
to pull what tukel just did which by the
way he more or less was on a lower level
trying to pull rank and be like i'm the
captain here and ever like you said the
natives are like no no you're not right
yeah you can't rank on ronaldo that
you'll the fans will turn there one man
in the world who can pull rank on
ronaldo and he's not coming back anytime
soon because he's like 85 [ __ ] years
old at this point that's right well i
think the other thing is like tuko has
more intensity
and more charisma than rangnik does
rangnick is chill he's an administrator
he's uh he's a professor he's a guy who
runs a school right he's just never had
to deal with a big stage and things
going sideways i think i think what's
happening is
for four years or three years they
haven't had to do [ __ ]
because all a was a [ __ ]
and rang nick's like
we're [ __ ] practicing yeah
he one of the first complaints was he
makes us stay after 5 p.m in the dark
okay yeah
you guys suck yeah
but i don't think that he has the
gravitas to get them to listen so he can
make them practice and he could be
telling them the greatest thing in the
world but the difference is is like
he's not steve gerard who can just walk
in here and be like who am i i'm steve
[ __ ] gerard that's who i am yeah
right right
right no i agree and so let's talk about
the real story of the day with
manchester united um ed woodward came
out earlier yesterday that he is going
to be stepping down at the end of
this was known but it was floating right
he didn't know when
first week of february which i found
ironically funny because it's the end of
the january transfer period feels
fitting
so
every manchester united fan that i know
was rejoicing oh thank goodness he's
gone he's finally gone he's out woodward
out blah blah blah let me ask some
how many teams
would be so lucky because i sure as [ __ ]
no one to have that level of involvement
that amount of spend right so what i'm
what my question for manchester united
fans here is what are you tasking
um woodward
with as far as transgender
transgressions go what has he done wrong
because for me here's what he's done
he's brought in romelu lukaku paul pogba
raphael varane i'm gonna miss a few
zlatan ibrahimovic angel di maria um
i mean i don't know cristiano ronaldo
like so there's there's just so many
impact players
that he coaches have said i want this
player and he has always as far as i
know alexis sanchez also by the way
flopped but
they had a huge i didn't hear people
yelling about ed woodward when they were
celebrating and retweeting the
manchester united uh video of alexis
playing glory gory man united at old
trafford on a [ __ ] piano i didn't see
that
so where were you then you can't do that
now i think i think where he was was
i think if the for for the
sorry for the run-of-the-mill sort of
men united fan
he was doing what they wanted him to do
he was buying famous players to fit into
the team he was more of a galactico
style and and the other thing was it
would never seem to be the right player
at the right time like it was always
late in the window or it was always
after oh city's going to get him oh now
we'll get him it always seemed reactive
and never seemed oh i don't know
but it never seemed polished early on i
think later windows were much better i
mean there were some bad ones like
schweinsteiger and schneiderlin
and you know just matic coming in late
like there were there were issues that
were bad but like i feel like the last
few windows
were much much better right when they
brought in the young guys and i think
the thing that [ __ ] up this team was
ronaldo i think he was out of the plans
they were gonna go with greenwood and
rashford and they panicked no but you
brought in you brought in varane you
said it on the show last week veranda
and ronaldo to the team who finished in
second place
yeah you should be better
right so is that down to woodward like i
don't know what is but he hired the
coaches he's
the organization hold on
okay since i mentioned sir alex since he
retired sir alex has had a hand in every
manager appointment
everyone
if i'm ed woodward
and part of my job is replacing sir alex
who by the way and you've said it on the
show before did everything he was the
judge jury and executioner he was a
coach he was the gm he was the transfer
everything right so you're trying to
replace one man with a couple so that's
obviously difficult you being one of
them you meaning ed woodward um
so right away
that's difficult in and of itself and he
was not set up to succeed he actually
did okay in a way that's what i mean
yeah at some point
how is this not more on the shoulders of
louis van gaal and jose mourinho and but
i think it is those guys did lose their
jobs
right right but like i
i struggle to understand
granted and by the way this is all a
symptom of the
um
the
the bar being so high for man united
right like so that's like you didn't
beat city and win the league and
liverpool has risen to power under this
regime i think therefore really really
really difficult one of the most if if
getting rid of an aging superstar is the
hardest thing to do getting rid of
an institution like or the transition
from an institution like
alex ferguson was even harder absolutely
way harder look at how
arsenal are just coming out of it
and they
worked hard at it i mean they they
chopped and changed and kind of watched
united was like wait a minute
something's [ __ ] up i think another
piece that's missing is woodward did
take over for
the he took over the whole organization
like there wasn't there was no la
holdover right and then the other piece
is the glazers are
the team has been not modern
set up for a long time i mean i think
the two model franchises as much as you
want to talk about money and whatever
and however you want to deal with it
chelsea does it one way
and city does it the other you can talk
about city money blah blah fact is they
spent the same amount of money as
manchester united and they've gotten way
more for it yep right absolutely right
like they don't they don't and this and
we make mistakes there are plenty of
mistakes of course
i mean how many center backs you talked
about a lot
this segways importantly into what our
good friend of the podcary has kind of
looked at it and said well
woodward sort of
ran the team as if he were running the
marketing wing only yes exactly and and
two or two to be fair he was and what he
was basically trying to do was have his
cake he needed to in the sense that he
was trying to have these big sexy
signings galactica as you said but sort
of barcelona e2 and it wasn't getting
late barcelona
late barcelona post
barcelona yeah yeah badly it was getting
instead of we we talked about it they
had a great defensive midfielder and if
they had gone and got declan rice
instead of iran and ronaldo they might
be in first place
um
right so
it's not getting the right man at the
job but also
that's so monday morning quarterback
that's so
difficult and frankly it's so easy for
you and me to sit here and say so i'm
going to take the opposite approach and
say wait a second
where were you not you where were the
proverbial um you know the woodward out
people people who they hammered him
that was that's what i'm saying where
were you
when when ronaldo was signing where were
you when people again was of course of
course
you were [ __ ] doing backflips when
cristiano ronaldo came back and he
didn't go to city so i don't want to
hear from you because the fact of the
matter is is that he gave you what you
wanted and then you realized what you
wanted wasn't what you needed and now
you're stuck with it and you're fighting
for the fourth place instead of fighting
for the title this is why fans should
this is why fans should not run teams
i've said
a million times right
city have bought and i know this as a
city fan city have bought players
not based on fame except for greelish
greely was weird
a little bit outside of
our normal purchases but bernardo silva
was just a guy uh david silva a great
player international for spain but not a
personality he was sort of a name but
but but right i mean they're not
personalities they're not right about
social media they're not
they're not shirts they they are spaced
they're being bought solely on their
proficiency right on them i would say
that they haven't shied away from names
necessarily but they have to have the
substance too raheem sterling was a name
john stone it was a name right like when
they bought him yeah um
so
but it's but it's prime it's not it's
not
popularity these players are i don't
know we see something that will fit
within our context yes
there is no context at united right and
and even if you have the uh
the
the you know the entourage or like the
excitement around you yeah it's because
city go okay that's fine well that means
we're gonna have to pay extra for him
like a grealish yeah i mean back when it
wasn't cool to be dropping 50 million a
piece on a player you dropped it for
sterling and
tons and tons of players okay you want
to talk about inflation think about the
the international transfer market
inflation in the last 10 years right
like like [ __ ]
i mean sterling
on any other team other than liverpool
or from going to any other team in city
probably 30 million and that's not a
slight on him that was a lot of money at
the time basically he's wilford zaha
what do you mean
he's essentially the same player
just that he got out of being i was sure
but he should have but if he was yeah he
would have just been that guy but what
i'm saying is that because city we're
like oh 30 [ __ ] it he here's 50 but have
him here tomorrow right like
like like you better drop him off and
make sure he's polished yeah right and
and city you know city do pay over the
margins and there's tons of players that
have come and gone guys that are like
negreto and wilford boney sure there's
tons and tons of mistakes and
weird guys that pellegrini like like
martin i wouldn't even see mistakes they
just they don't fit in with a certain
manager a certain system as well as
somebody might have thought um
sonia i mean these guys are
oh that's a good deep cut nice one
what a weird dude yeah i think he ended
up in frank i think he played for henry
in montreal yeah very weird um we do
have
other
news
uh i do want to take a minute i don't
remember what i was going to say about
weird transfers american players moving
oh yeah that's replaced we have pepe
going to oasburg from dallas for 25
million is that the highest
paid number for an american player well
pool usage but i mean from from mos no
but from mls that's
it probably is yeah that's a massive
number and that's a big deal right and
and again from augsburg right so
um
they're just above the right they're
they're a relegation team but they're
like in 12th or 13th we'll see he seems
to have good movement i'm interested in
what he did again here come the germans
swooping in finding
a a top american talent now they paid 25
million for them which is not your
normal that's a lot you know cut all
right that's a lot it's not your normal
cut rate say right like like we we had a
show a long time ago at this point where
we basically talked about how the
germans have identified
americans at an early age have the
athleticism and they can sort of be
taught
uh and they can be crafted into how to
play the game and all that stuff
geoarena comes to mind right now
obviously pulisic and others um uh
weston mckinney for one um
who by the way come on
come on power tg bring him to [ __ ]
tottenham um can he pass
yes better than pierre-emerick [ __ ]
hoiber he can
um
so
but yeah the germans basically strike
again and say this is a player who we
think we're going to invest 25 million
and we think we can turn him around for
75 to an english team in two years um so
and these are marketing ploys right the
german police
the german league is lousy at marketing
its league it's so insular it tries its
damndest but it just can't
penetrate the the us market the way the
premier league can this they've they
have all the production value it has the
louds fans it has everything i'll tell
you what it doesn't have any [ __ ]
competition
yeah no it doesn't and and we you've
said it many many times about how
basically they're all just feeder clubs
for bayern and it's true um
but he plays really well he goes to
bayern hey listen
we are less than a year away which
sounds ridiculous from the world cup and
so if ricardo pepe can get some real
minutes and and start to really craft
his game at that level at that european
level oh he becomes a player for this
year city player nycfc's own champion
center back julian sands goes to rangers
in scotland all right
all right i didn't see that one terrific
yeah yeah i think it's alone so he's
going to go and come back that's fine
that that's perfect yeah that's six but
scotland mls
they're above it they're above it i'll
tell you why they're above it for the
atmospheres they're above it for the
number of fans yeah for the well
whatever sure but for the
scottishness instead of englishness
right like they're they're
that
experience is going to teach you more
about the game than mls couldn't in six
months than mls could in 30 years yeah
he just placed to play one old firm
darby and be like oh [ __ ] yeah exactly
right this matters this is some this is
some old school [ __ ] this is right we're
gonna bomb your house right
from oh we're playing the houston dynamo
to that guy's gonna kill my family right
so this is real
it's a coming of age that
it's not just about equality can i just
pour a little bit out for sectarian
violence
my god
i love it so much on twitter when sans
got his thing someone made a joke about
sans who was one of the famous uh ira
hunger strikers who who didn't eat for
three weeks they're so on top of it
they're just like oh sans that's the
same name as the guy who who had a
hunger strike from the ira this happened
in the 80s like they're just on their
sectarian [ __ ] they've got songs about
killing people and bombings and iras
listen baseball bats so rangers are the
protestant team and celtic are the irish
team and glasgow goes to war
i'm sorry of the catholic team and glad
glasgow goes to war
fi they must have derby's like every
other day it seems like they play all
the time let me run back to chelsea
tottenham for one more thing because i
saw a club statement today from
tottenham and let me preface this by
saying i do not
condone homophobia or anything or any of
them i condone it
what i'm saying is that uh
there is a familiar chant and song about
chelsea being male prostitutes blah blah
rent boys rent boys is the term yes
correct and
they're
it's [ __ ] like that and and take take
but the away fans chanting yet army was
fine
well that's it's our thing right and
whatever i'm not saying what i'm saying
what i'm saying is that like you said
the depth of insult in europe
is so impressive
and and
yeah like they often cross lines i don't
think there's some real linecraft by the
way i don't think this is on the same
par as some other lines but the hissing
that's
about as bad as it gets that's about as
bad as it gets right and believe me a
lot of it is directed at tottenham fans
so if tottenham fans are making a couple
ha-ha-ha-ha-ha jokes
you know what while you guys are kicking
the living [ __ ] [ __ ] out of us
good on you good on you
but no no
did you hear it did they did you hear
the lukaku enter song
oh i don't oh yes i did i did i did he's
inter he's inter yeah romelu lukaku he's
into milan yeah yeah
yeah i mean look it's it's it's
the way that they can continue
oh they definitely can sometimes and you
know what the bridge wasn't that loud i
mean look it's a nothing game it was in
the bag earlier i thought it was pretty
rowdy then it seemed crowded oh actually
i thought that there were sections that
were empty i was actually sort of
surprised by that and i think that was
sort of at ticket allocation things and
whatever
i'm not criticizing either team and
again i'm not saying i condone the idea
of whatever but let's let's separate
for a second
the actual what that is
and just having a laugh right like
that's realistically where we are i know
that that's impossible in the year 2022
i get that the year of our lord 2022
year of our lord 2022 um uh but like i
just
the depth that they go to to these these
songs these chants and again
they do cross lines sometimes but
the fact that they have so much vitriol
and it actually brought me back to
something i turned off the tottenham
game and i went
all right whatever uh i'll just watch
some hockey or whatever tonight and just
kind of cleanse my sports palette of
that nonsense
the worst part is that they don't have
anything else
so as much as i started drinking the
kool-aid and i started coming around and
i don't really care about the carabao
cup but [ __ ] it i'm in this time
they do this every time and i just was
like why aren't suicides higher in
england like oh they're high yeah
i don't get it no i think that they have
a they have a weirdly
less obsessive sport culture i don't
think that it's as 24 7 not as many
people have cable so they literally go
to games and watch match of the day that
is the extent of
footballness and twitter i think they're
much more sport twitter focused than we
are and i i do remember this
the it is much more casual i mean if you
think about our time at tops inside kik
the kids they don't
they don't
i don't get the sense that there's like
the the live or die stuff i don't know
it doesn't seem to be i mean it's just
different it's different
it's different i think
right oh no it is um and and
it's definitely it doesn't take on the
sort of like life or death kind of i
don't know maybe i mean i don't know
it's just different but then they get
excited about darts and i'm like what
the [ __ ] are you doing that's that would
be like
well yeah that would be like me watching
an nfl game on sunday and be like oh
bowling's on that's [ __ ] cool well if
it was only nfl
i would you might watch darts oh jesus
that's a
that's what i mean i might just [ __ ]
kill myself then i don't know yeah
uh i do want to go i want to go one more
round through the fa cup do you have any
games that you are interested in uh do
you pick it up so much so that i don't
even know
okay let me look at them let me oh no no
no there was uh one of the
i don't know any of the uh the
non-premier league sides if i'm being
quite honest but
west ham leads sounds really fun and
like you said man united aston villa
sounds awesome
um
no no those are the only two kitty
minster though i'm in on kitty minster
and reading because i think i told the
story on the show one time that i was uh
drinking at the holiday party for the
reading basically backroom staff uh two
years ago three years ago whatever it
was and so they're all really good i've
got a killer staff for you ready go for
it
chesterfield versus uh
chelsea this is only england has this
it's amazing chesterfield's won victory
against chelsea was back in october of
1905
in a league match winning one nil it was
chelsea's first ever home defeat in the
football league
wow
chelsea haven't faced chesterfield in
the fa cup since the 1949 50 season we
all remember that winning three nothing
classic game winning three nothing in a
fifth round replay after a 1-1 draw oh
yeah that's one thing that we all
remember the fa cup normally has replays
they have repealed replays so these
games will go to extra time directly to
penalties replays were really cool for
the poor team wait wait wait wait wait
is it going to extra time or directly to
penalties extra time and penalties and
then penalties got it okay yes
got it that's good to know because
because in a in a late
1-1 game i'm gonna be kurt i would have
been cursing up and down like we got to
go play more come again this is [ __ ]
[ __ ]
yeah but for morkum for morkum it's it's
the greatest thing ever so we won't have
replays unfortunately which is some of
the most famous games so for for the
uninitiated the fa cup is
every team in england that is up and
down the country has a chance to be in
it there's a it starts with 792 teams
the
the
the
champion starts in august yes starting
august right the championship and the
premier league jump in in the third
round
so they have that nice opportunity to
bounce in after there's already been you
know
dozens and dozens around whittling it
down to i think this is 64. i think this
is right yeah like so you're talking
about almost 800 teams being whittled
down to i think yeah like you said i
think right so so when a team that is
non-league so non-league means you are
not professional you are outside of
league two which is the third tier down
so there's the premier league is 20
teams championship is 24. league one is
24. league two
is also 24. when you drop out of that
into the conference leagues you are
considered not in the in the
professional game you're in the you're
in a lower division right but those
teams are professional and
and the reason why we brought up that
chelsea game is that um
chelsea are playing the highest rated
team that are non-league so chesterfield
is currently sitting top of the
championship of the
the national the national league yeah
it's called
uh and they like i said they're
undefeated but it's very cool i mean
people [ __ ] on the fa cup a lot i find
it to be
[ __ ] fantastic
yeah some of my most my most painful
games have been specifically city losing
to [ __ ] wigan
and if if if wigan [ __ ] advances i
will be petrified of them because will
griggs was on fire when some
[ __ ]
and your defense was terrified no no
what what the hell was that what was the
the bald black midfielder that city had
oh god he plays for
he plays uh for everton now i can't
remember his name oh oh uh war 18. you
were number 18. yeah i can't remember
his name fabian delph yes he got sent
off in that game and paul and pep never
played him again yes that's right
i was you said one game that i really
should have called out
millwall versus crystal palace oh i'm
excited i'm gonna get up for that one on
saturday i'm very excited for that so so
famously millwall is known
for being the most violent and
disgusting fans in all of england west
ham and millwall
represent east london which is the most
working class part of london and
historically made up the most famous
soccer hooligans uh probably in the
heyday late 70s early 80s you can easily
find
half a dozen
coming-of-age stories of working-class
kids getting into fights
about it
all of them involve gary oldman
um they're really really good uh if you
like absurd movies with bad acting yeah
set they're basically movies that try
and
make working-class people seem stupid
for following football and you shouldn't
do this so
there was a concerted effort oh uh going
along you know
what we've talked about sometimes
jokingly sometimes not is the
hillsborough disaster that was really
like a class battle between the north
and the south of just like oh these
these stupid scousers got themselves
killed when in fact they actually
was was incompetent and was crushed
and they're still fighting about it
there's been a movie on in england that
talks about the documentary they won't
give it up
yeah
uh let's not end the show on that note
let's talk about something else before
we go we're not gonna we're not we're
not ending on people getting crushed no
no no no no no no no talk to me what
about bombing of the of the english
steven gerrard
i think this is his first time playing
united he's since he got sent off after
35 seconds yes correct
he's gonna have the boys jazzed to go
into old trafford
and i think they come out with a win and
you know why it's because ed woodward is
leaving
uh
if aston villa
beats united at united
it will only be the second time any team
has won twice at united in a season
chelsea 2004 beat them twice at home oh
i see it
and tottenham
in 1989 90. yes oh wait that wait that
was the the two teams that you know the
third team was and we'll all remember
this again aston villa themselves have
done it in the 19 19 20 season so oh oh
you know when guys were walking around
with one leg after getting gassed and
bombed and they're correct oh give me
help me out and they've got one arm and
yeah chips on their faces from
from getting killed by germans
there it is the first time the first
time this is the first time technically
that is not a world war ii reference it
is like
you have your reference
all right although they did it
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