Episode #133 – FA Cup 3rd Round Review – Arsenal Ousted. Newcastle United nuked and more

In Episode #133 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Mike and Laurent run through the weekend’s FA Cup results, including Tottenham’s come-from-behind win, Nottingham Forest knocking out Arsenal and more! Also:

  • Rapid-fire FA Cup review of ALL 32 matchups.
  • Newcastle United EMBARRASSED? Not really.
  • Old Premier League friends Phillip Coutinho and Kieran Trippier return to England for Aston Villa and Newcastle respectively. Can either have a tangible effect for their new clubs?
  • Three of the big five European leagues are more or less in the bag, will that be holding up any big transfers before the January 31st deadline?
  • Laurent wants more love for AFCON!

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Transcript

00:00

hello and welcome to the squeaky bum

00:03

time podcast with mike and laurent

00:05

mike's wearing a terrible hat and it's

00:07

tuesday january 11th in this episode the

00:10

magic of the cup is magical united play

00:13

bad and win afcon transfers but first

00:16

mike hey uh it's the second leg of the

00:18

carabao cup you're down two do spurs

00:21

have a shot nah this trophy doesn't

00:24

matter

00:25

it's back yeah they're calcified mike is

00:28

back no uh um no we don't we don't have

00:30

a snowball chance in hell uh at home

00:33

down two nil to a far superior chelsea

00:35

side um

00:37

we'll talk about

00:39

why when we get into tottenham's

00:41

um harrowing experience at home in the

00:44

fa cup uh yeah but also good at the same

00:47

time anyway i'm gonna do it i'm gonna

00:50

try and break the record for scores here

00:52

we go 32 matches

00:54

one two three and go friday swindon town

00:58

one man city four this is the cole

01:00

palmer game prem soon come he said it

01:03

it's gonna be on t-shirts ma uh

01:05

middlesboro beat mansfield town i don't

01:06

know much about that hartley pool

01:07

blackpool the pool is empty there's

01:09

nothing in the pool there's duty in the

01:11

pool hartley pool moves on fulham will

01:13

be man city's department they do they

01:15

defeat bristol city one nil

01:17

burnley lose to huddersfield oh ruff

01:19

burnley not great bob uh coventry defeat

01:22

uh derby county i told our friend bj

01:25

don't bet on derby and you didn't

01:27

because derby have more important things

01:29

on online millwall crystal palace fun

01:31

fun game we said it would be and it was

01:34

i watched it palace go through uh my boy

01:37

luisa second half incredible in the

01:39

giant killing well giant killing

01:41

cambridge united defeat new castle in a

01:44

battle of rich smart people versus dumb

01:46

poor people cambridge are there smart

01:48

people new cast a lot of dumb people

01:50

petersboro bottom of the championship

01:52

defeat mr rovers barnsley five barrel

01:56

four this game was bananas

01:59

barrow

02:01

not doing well brighton defeat west brom

02:04

i was worried but brighton were good

02:05

lester defeat watford no not a big deal

02:08

kitty minster harriers the lowest ranked

02:10

team in the group is it safe for

02:12

children or bad featured or not i don't

02:13

know what's going on

02:15

but kitty is in the name they defeat

02:18

reading a championship team branford

02:20

smash port vale good name for port vale

02:22

feels like it should be something in

02:23

game of thrones wigan athletic you

02:25

[ __ ] you defeat my beloved blackburn

02:27

rovers uh of course we can advance in

02:30

the third round because they're evil

02:32

city are going to meet them in two

02:33

rounds and lose qpr win on penalties 8-7

02:36

over rotherham wow boreham wood over

02:38

wimbledon poor wimbledon everton three

02:40

whole city two they were down on his

02:42

team everton came back probably saving

02:44

rafa benitez's job

02:46

chelsea are not nice to chesterfield and

02:48

smash them plymouth argyle and their

02:50

socks defeat birmingham city southampton

02:52

down a man but defeat swansea 3-2 that

02:55

was probably a barn burner in the south

02:56

coast bournemouth yeovil town

02:58

bournemouth go through luton over

03:00

harrogate town don't know what's going

03:02

on there stoke leighton orient still

03:04

nothing

03:05

sorry hearn

03:06

yeah i don't think he owns that team

03:07

anymore cardiff city in an empty stadium

03:10

because wales has different rules

03:11

defeats preston north end norwich

03:14

scraped by charlton that was bad wolves

03:16

defeat sheffield they keep their run

03:18

going after beating united west ham

03:20

defeat leeds leeds were not good in this

03:22

game but west ham were tottenham

03:24

looked like they were good in this game

03:26

beating the shrimps 3-1 but they were

03:28

down a goal and left it late uh

03:31

liverpool defeat shrewsbury shrews uh i

03:33

don't know where shrewsbury is somewhere

03:35

in england um in the middle there uh in

03:38

the biggest game of the weekend

03:41

nottingham forest over arsenal

03:44

uh forest on a man with a great beard

03:46

defeat arsenal arsenal don't show up

03:48

they look like they're mormons wearing

03:50

their white uniform i like the the thing

03:52

behind it they didn't play well not much

03:55

there and then united [ __ ] get lucky

03:57

against aston villa

03:59

this could be a whole var episode if it

04:01

was two years ago i still [ __ ] hate

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var i don't want it we don't need it who

04:05

is it for [ __ ] off we'll go through the

04:07

fourth round later mike what do you got

04:11

that was awesome uh i i there were a

04:12

couple of things i wanted to talk about

04:14

first of all kitty minster coming over

04:17

from behind one nil down against reading

04:20

um i have a soft spot for reading as

04:22

i've said a number of times on the show

04:24

but my love for kitty minister could not

04:26

be denied so they they finish the the

04:28

they go into halftime one nil and they

04:30

get two goals late on

04:33

kitty minster still alive i have a new

04:36

favorite team um very buy them for ten

04:39

million dollars we could buy them for

04:40

ten dollars um

04:42

i wanted yeah i mean

04:45

arsenal didn't show up but they they

04:47

they didn't care like they even look at

04:48

the lineup they put out they had

04:50

very very sparse grouping and not

04:53

nefarious came and they said no we're

04:54

gonna [ __ ] you know

04:56

you're in our house we're gonna take

04:57

this from you and they did and and full

04:59

marks to them

05:01

uh we alluded to spurs so i'll just get

05:03

or get it over with and get on with the

05:04

rest of the [ __ ] show uh down one nil

05:07

to morcam uh it was the shrimps the

05:11

shrimps it was a goal that was a

05:13

combination of matt doherty and jaffa

05:15

tanganga's fault stop me if you've heard

05:17

that before um

05:19

and they just they looked like [ __ ]

05:22

and then uh harry kane came on with

05:25

harry winks and with um uh lucas i

05:28

believe

05:29

it was a three-man change that's awesome

05:33

it was like get the [ __ ] out of here we

05:34

gotta get out of here

05:35

uh tangy and zombie is one of the

05:37

players taken off he walks off the field

05:41

sulking

05:42

booed

05:43

by the entire 62-000 c stadium that and

05:46

then kante doesn't defend him

05:49

that had to be his last appearance in a

05:51

tottenham shirt and i will not be sad to

05:53

see him go again i've said it he may

05:56

play well someplace else he will he'll

05:58

play somewhere he just looks like he

05:59

actually doesn't even like playing he's

06:02

just the best kid on the block you know

06:03

what here's what i would do if i'm new

06:05

castle i buy him i just let him do what

06:06

he wants

06:08

yeah no that makes a lot of sense um

06:10

because he's better than almeron

06:13

so let's let's dive a little bit deeper

06:15

into why

06:16

tottenham needed harry kane and they

06:18

needed lucas mora and they needed harry

06:20

winks to save them against morkum in the

06:22

fa cup no it wasn't it was skip that let

06:25

winks go forward

06:26

well yeah but winks hit the the freak no

06:28

no i understand that it was an

06:29

incredible

06:30

yeah

06:31

but

06:32

the point that i'm making is is that we

06:34

talk a lot

06:36

on this show about the top of the table

06:37

and the differences between

06:39

that's my definition yeah there you go

06:41

the differences between manchester city

06:43

and liverpool as you say many many times

06:45

liverpool's one to 11 plus anfield plus

06:48

cop all that is better than anyone's

06:50

better than anyone damn near unstoppable

06:52

and i don't i've never disagreed with

06:54

you

06:55

but one to 18 city is far better miles

06:58

better and it's it's it's showing

07:00

through

07:00

so if you look a little bit further down

07:02

the table and chelsea is included in

07:04

this group now yeah they're probably one

07:06

to fifteen

07:07

chelsea manchester united

07:10

are

07:11

one to 15. liverpool is one to 13 right

07:15

no no but but they're but their quality

07:17

is higher but their depth is not as much

07:19

and so

07:21

tottenham is like one to four

07:24

yeah yeah they're not they're not that

07:25

good yeah and so

07:27

joe wrote on played

07:31

no

07:32

no no i look i mean i hate to give the

07:34

kid [ __ ] he's just

07:36

you know already it's okay no he's not

07:38

but like we spent with 15 20 million on

07:40

him how much was ds

07:42

40 i don't remember right but like we

07:45

you know

07:46

it's a combination of oh cities diaz

07:49

yeah oh 75 okay we're fine then we

07:51

weren't gonna get him but um big number

07:54

no but i remember like mourinho saying

07:55

that's the guy you have to get and we

07:57

get you know it's like oh i want ruben

08:00

diaz no no we have ruben diaz at home

08:02

like they don't you have joe rodon right

08:04

so yeah yeah um

08:06

listen romero being hurt has has exposed

08:09

frankly the problems that tottenham have

08:11

always had the last five years and it's

08:13

depth they've never replaced al de veron

08:15

and vertonghen right right or ericsson

08:18

you know uh

08:19

so

08:21

yeah i mean and and so that's why when

08:24

we talk about the top four race and

08:25

everybody's you know banging on united

08:27

and this and they can't do anything

08:28

right whatever

08:29

they're going to finish ahead of spurs

08:31

they're going to finish ahead of west

08:32

ham and that is the reason why they're

08:35

going to fall as backwards into wins

08:37

because of the games that are in the

08:38

condensed part of the schedule which

08:40

west ham is going to have to deal with

08:41

todd thankfully hopefully won't to a

08:43

degree because they're out of the nit

08:46

um

08:48

but

08:49

they um

08:51

they will have the ability to run an

08:54

edinson cavani out there which like

08:56

that's

08:57

he's better than everybody on tottenham

09:00

not named harry kane literally he would

09:02

be taught the second best player and

09:03

he's

09:05

scratched he's not better than sonny

09:06

sorry i know you you're down

09:09

i know i know just trust me fine he'll

09:11

show up

09:12

in a counter-attacking game he doesn't

09:14

look good sun is not good when it's a

09:16

cat when it's a non-counter-attacking

09:18

game and you have to break people down

09:19

he's not really a pastor he just wants

09:21

to go he has before no i know i know

09:23

what his name is but he's he's out of

09:25

form it it it comes and goes it happens

09:28

i do love sonny i get i give him a lot

09:30

of [ __ ] but i bounce around there's

09:31

games that i please do we typically want

09:33

to call out

09:36

the

09:37

the barrow barnsley game

09:39

this game is sitting at

09:43

at uh at two nil

09:46

to barnsley

09:48

in the 42nd minute

09:51

then in the last let's see

09:54

in the last 20 12 minutes of this game

09:57

from the 83rd minute there are one two

09:59

three four five

10:02

five goals this game went with bonkers

10:06

but good games like really really good

10:08

goals so just wanted to call that one

10:10

out and the reason why i call out

10:11

barnsley is that is the billy bean lead

10:14

barnsley who uh had daryl dk last year

10:17

so a little american team tie-in he was

10:20

there we should probably bounce around

10:22

to

10:23

let's see what else i want to bounce

10:24

around to i do want to bounce around to

10:27

uh

10:28

crystal palace millwall a really good

10:30

fun game the kits that crystal palace

10:33

had were incredible uh elysee came on

10:36

second half and completely bossed this

10:38

game into the last 12 minutes when

10:40

crystal palace who have had the problems

10:42

of falling apart down the stretch really

10:44

hung on against a really game mill wall

10:47

it's about as english as you can get

10:49

fantastic game if you can go hunt down

10:52

highlights to that you should uh the

10:55

thing that's funny about the paris

10:56

arsenal the the

10:58

the nottingham forest arsenal game is

11:01

you want it to be

11:03

a better game it just was a bad game

11:05

like right arsenal had no shots on

11:07

target

11:09

only 10 shots in the game

11:13

and that plays into far sands right like

11:15

they were at home to be fair well sure

11:16

but if no but if if arsenal are bossing

11:19

the game i'm sorry if it's an attractive

11:21

game then arsenal are boss in the game

11:22

and arsenal wins that two three nothing

11:24

right yeah um so the fact that it was

11:26

mucked up of course plays to the lesser

11:28

team um and yeah of course the tottenham

11:31

in me despite that i'm wearing red head

11:33

to toe right now roll tide yeah uh is uh

11:36

you know

11:37

uh it is happy that arsenal lost but at

11:40

the same time like you know you want to

11:41

see attractive football when you white

11:43

and then this was

11:44

some the funny thing about forest is

11:46

there are some uh some fun friends of of

11:48

american football and prior seasons

11:50

ethan horvath is on that team grabbing

11:53

it used to play at crystal palace jack

11:55

colback of uh the famous uh jack colback

11:59

of of newcastle who at one time the

12:01

coach said if i had none jack callbacks

12:04

we wouldn't be in this problem so uh he

12:06

was in the game famously uh but forest

12:10

a little known fact for the friends and

12:12

if you don't know this please look it up

12:14

two-time european champions they've got

12:17

two stars on their crest under brian

12:19

clough this is one of the

12:21

famous names in the legends and annals

12:25

of english football that has fallen off

12:27

and has not been in the premier league

12:29

since:

12:32

finally bowed out and died a year later

12:34

in brian clough he is famous of damned

12:35

united look him up brian clough

12:38

1978 79 champion came up two years later

12:42

won the league defeated liverpool this

12:44

is like lester

12:46

twice so yeah well it's last year before

12:49

every before there were super teams

12:50

right and so yeah i mean they had before

12:52

super teams but

12:53

liverpool had won the league four times

12:56

in six years sure but it wasn't the

12:58

money wasn't no no well that's what i

13:00

mean it was more plausible right it

13:02

wasn't a literal

13:04

it may have

13:05

felt and sounded like goliath but

13:07

financially it was not an actual goliath

13:10

right no um it wasn't close they are

13:12

they are

13:13

um they are amongst what new castle like

13:16

blackboard blackburn rovers and

13:18

nottingham far some of these like you

13:20

said in the world i mean we've been

13:21

getting them like leads had that

13:23

sitting in on them but i would say right

13:27

now they're most of the

13:29

famous teams

13:30

are actually in the premier league i

13:32

think i guess sunderland right now is a

13:34

big team that's sort of floating out

13:36

there uh they're still playing they're

13:37

still out there but they're in in hard

13:39

times uh there are a couple others sort

13:42

of counts i suppose milwaukee's

13:43

millwall's famous but not they were not

13:46

field products

13:48

so that's that's your little lesson uh

13:50

in the anals of the premier league

13:53

uh in the uh the neil mulpey nether

13:55

regions uh hey hey hey my guy

13:58

there was some quality [ __ ] housing

14:00

going on in that west brom game from

14:02

good old neil mulpey neck grabs falling

14:05

down good stuff good stuff i wanna i

14:07

wanna go through some of the uh the next

14:08

round fixtures unless you you have uh

14:11

the the one that sticks out to me the

14:13

most um

14:14

not it other than tottenham brighton is

14:17

uh

14:18

his everton br uh brentford i'm excited

14:20

for that i think that is going to be

14:21

really nice we should give we should

14:23

give some shrift to men united aston

14:25

villa they get a goal early this is

14:28

rang nick after i mean just a complete

14:30

sieve of a team knives out there after

14:33

rang nick this is what happens at man

14:35

united this is a big team if you don't

14:37

know the history of men united men

14:39

united have been through this before

14:42

they win the european cup in:

14:44

george best famous name an alcoholic

14:47

but go through most of the 70s and 80s

14:50

as a big team they were always as big as

14:53

liverpool if not bigger but they were a

14:55

cup team they were hollywood they never

14:58

could get it back together again and

15:00

basically spend the 70s and 80s as men

15:03

united a big team

15:06

but not winning they win fa cups now and

15:08

again so united are back

15:11

the outlier was

15:13

ferguson but they're back to where they

15:16

were

15:16

uh they're kind of a cup team they're

15:18

kind of where they were ferguson was

15:20

special uh just like klopp is special

15:23

and pep is special yeah i mean with the

15:25

premier league is not going to have to

15:26

but in this game

15:27

of course united fans booed steve

15:30

gerrard that's fine but this is a var

15:33

fuck-up cock-up i mean

15:36

just incredible

15:38

a goal a little scruffy goal in front of

15:40

the net that

15:41

i'm not sure is one of these off is one

15:44

of the subjective offside where is

15:46

someone in the way

15:47

they go to seven replays over and over

15:50

again you there's a did the guy touch it

15:52

did he not touch it the ball never uh

15:54

ollie watkins foot doesn't change the

15:56

flight of the ball um

15:58

uh uh ings knees it in no call they look

16:02

at it forever and ever and ever um then

16:05

they go to the to this to the screen and

16:08

it's never explained why the goal is

16:10

choked off just that they took four

16:12

minutes to chalk it off for no reason

16:16

uh one of the things that i've really

16:17

liked and i didn't realize this that i

16:19

really liked about the fa cup and the

16:20

games i've watched is when it has not

16:22

been in a premier league ground there

16:24

has been no var and let me tell you

16:27

watching games with no var is [ __ ]

16:29

awesome

16:31

because you can

16:33

feel the flow the goals are goals the

16:36

handballs guys throw their hands up the

16:38

ball goes out of play they keep going so

16:40

let me ask you because i didn't get to

16:42

see any i had failing time i watched

16:43

spurs but obviously that was at a

16:45

premier league ground

16:46

um

16:47

was there any

16:48

difference you could feel

16:51

in the uh the fourth official in offside

16:54

calls

16:55

because because they usually let things

16:57

get so much better they call it

17:00

okay they're not doing that pause thing

17:02

yeah yeah where like i think if i'm if

17:05

i'm united i'm super pissed off lindelof

17:07

gets clattered almost breaks his [ __ ]

17:09

hip bone in a off side where where danny

17:12

ings is clearly offside but they let it

17:14

play out

17:15

right so this system i just

17:18

i know

17:19

i sound like a broken record i'm just

17:21

trust me on this one

17:23

it's so much better without var no i'm

17:25

not arguing that i don't think i i i you

17:27

know i'd be hard-pressed to find

17:28

somebody that would argue for var at

17:30

this point i think i know because i

17:32

think i think the punditry does call for

17:35

vr they want it because i think that

17:37

they're players and they don't

17:39

they're kind of disconnected from

17:41

this really blows because we're still

17:43

arguing the same anyway we're not going

17:45

to try it over the scene no no i think

17:47

real quick i think um

17:49

the the problem i have with with

17:52

get away from the uh the actual

17:55

implement implementation in the the

17:57

lines and the armpits and all that [ __ ]

17:59

no matter what it sucks yeah i don't

18:01

know i know but the continuation right

18:03

like yeah

18:05

the continuation of that play with the

18:06

danny ing's play you just said if he

18:09

generates a corner kick

18:10

and then they score from that corner

18:12

kick they don't call it back nope so

18:14

now you're talking about both sides your

18:16

mouth right off the bat

18:17

because that play should have never been

18:19

allowed to continue

18:20

and

18:21

there's a goal that stands that is

18:23

technically legal because it wasn't

18:24

called offsides when it was just it's

18:27

just there's an air there's a breath

18:29

there's a

18:31

feeling that it's right there's a way

18:33

that it's played there's a

18:35

free-flowing the game continues these

18:38

var checks are like time-outs it it

18:41

there was i just found it to be

18:44

just maybe it's maybe it's because i'm

18:46

not used to it i just found it to be so

18:48

much better and the championship should

18:50

never get it i don't care if you're the

18:52

championship never get var stay pure

18:55

stay golden ponyboy

18:58

so we move on let me go back to the

19:01

everton bedford game does rafa benitez

19:04

manage this game on february 5th

19:06

feb yes he's fine you're not going

19:09

anywhere against brentford yeah he's

19:10

fine

19:11

okay he's not going anywhere he's gonna

19:13

lose to brentford i think but

19:15

are you gonna bet that one oh everton

19:17

brentford's a good one

19:19

at

19:20

goodison i don't brentford is not as

19:22

good a way they're not they are very

19:25

toothless on the road so that'll be an

19:26

issue

19:27

the fun thing is middlesboro is very

19:30

active in the transfer window

19:32

they get united at home it's chris

19:35

wilder who with sheffield beat united

19:38

he's a really good coach and he will

19:41

expose this team middlesborough have

19:43

made moves i believe that they got

19:45

balagun from arsenal on loan already so

19:48

middlesbrough are making a push

19:50

uh you know we're we're in the middle of

19:52

the transfer window they are on a let's

19:54

see

19:55

they beat mansfield they beat blackpool

19:58

they beat forest they beat bournemouth

20:00

they beat swansea they beat harris field

20:04

they are unbeaten in one two three four

20:06

five six unbeaten in six since uh wilder

20:10

came on they're on the move this is a

20:12

real team middlesborough of uh uh of

20:15

robbie musto's team uh very famous good

20:19

sort of like

20:20

made up the numbers in the premier

20:21

league for most of the

20:23

s and some of the:

20:25

good team so i don't think united get an

20:27

easy draw to be fair

20:30

kitty minster hosting west ham that's so

20:33

good for them come on kitty mince you

20:35

get the home game i'm excited for them

20:38

um yeah yeah that's good

20:42

now they sound when you say that they

20:44

sound more like kid touchers than they

20:46

did

20:46

before i don't know why

20:49

uh harrier maybe it's because they make

20:51

the airplanes there yeah maybe uh not a

20:54

whole lot to write home about uh in the

20:56

rest of the draw man city get former uh

20:59

premier league friends fulham that

21:01

should not be much of an issue

21:02

especially because fulham while they

21:04

were in the premier league one of the

21:05

main reasons they are no longer is

21:07

because they

21:08

i respect the hell out of this they have

21:10

refused to bend a knee they are very

21:14

much in the they were very much in the

21:16

leads form where they're like we're

21:17

going to play the way we want to play

21:18

we're going to try and dictate it to you

21:20

the problem with that they didn't do a

21:21

lot of dictating um so i think city

21:24

cruises there uh and then probably and

21:27

they've and they've fallen off they've

21:28

been the best team in the league but the

21:30

marco silva experiment as anyone who has

21:33

had marco silva as their coach c wolves

21:36

c watford he's really good at first and

21:39

then somewhere about 15 games in

21:40

everything falls apart right right right

21:42

and so this is not my uh my lilly white

21:45

heart here but i mean i think far and

21:47

away the most interesting game of the

21:49

draw

21:50

for this pod for certainly for this pod

21:52

but it's gonna be tottenham brighton um

21:55

so we'll we'll see we'll see what

21:56

happens and i mean look

21:58

you know

21:59

cohen going into the game on wednesday

22:01

against chelsea the more i think about

22:03

the

22:04

the shine on kante is off and it's i

22:06

don't mean to say that any any way

22:09

disparagingly about antonio conte

22:12

there's no players he doesn't have the

22:13

players well here's what happens right

22:15

it's imagine thinking it's it's like a

22:17

um

22:18

it's like a rookie baseball player who

22:20

comes up and all of a sudden he's

22:21

hitting 450 and then the the pitchers

22:24

the league adjusts to him how do you

22:26

adjust back right so in in this example

22:28

tottenham tottenham's uh change of style

22:32

was effectively that hot start the new

22:33

manager you know push or whatever uh the

22:36

game against liverpool comes to mind

22:38

where they were bossing it they were

22:39

really going after them they were

22:40

pushing things around

22:42

kante was

22:43

out managing klopp like crazy

22:46

now you give it two weeks everybody goes

22:47

oh that's what they're doing okay

22:50

and the problem with that

22:52

is that tottenham needs to readjust now

22:53

well how do you do that you sign some

22:55

players that's how you do that because

22:57

the players that they have as i already

22:59

alluded to are just not up for it

23:01

they're just not really

23:03

capable of doing it

23:05

ben davies is doing a fine job trying to

23:07

hold this [ __ ] together with dog hair

23:09

and duct tape man but it's not his job

23:12

yeah i i wonder if the erickson thing

23:14

will happen i i would it would he said

23:16

he's not gonna come back before uh next

23:17

season i think the world cup is when

23:19

he's actually targeting yeah but how's

23:20

he gonna get in that squad

23:22

without playing

23:24

oh christian erickson in denmark

23:26

denmark was good without him they were

23:28

good without him but it's like hey do

23:29

you want your best most talented player

23:31

back or do you want to just try and go

23:33

again without him

23:34

by the way you know whose place he's

23:36

gonna [ __ ] take hoy beards [ __ ] that

23:38

guy

23:39

you're done with him huh ah i'm done

23:40

with everybody yeah they're they're kind

23:42

of it's kind of it's kind of a tough i

23:44

have a bro right now there is a little

23:46

bit of a dog day uh i ran into a guy a

23:48

friend of mine who goes watches the

23:50

giants he went to the giants on sunday

23:51

and he's a liverpool guy he's like oh

23:53

congrats

23:54

i'm like come on man it's not over can't

23:57

be over yeah but i guess it's kind of

23:59

over i mean city's not going to drop

24:00

yeah i mean look he's not going to drop

24:02

three games well there's more fatigue

24:04

than usual this year because of all the

24:06

stoppages and the postponements and

24:07

everything's just this is the reprieve

24:09

this is always the thing you look

24:10

forward to and in the festive period

24:12

it's always furious and every every

24:14

single day and there was the stop start

24:16

that just that grinded up more on people

24:19

i think i think i think the weird the

24:21

weird thing is it's just

24:24

city didn't lose you're not supposed to

24:26

go undefeated in the festive period

24:28

that's actually you're not that's

24:29

actually why they put it

24:35

they just put the gas down

24:37

yeah and just we're like

24:39

we're cutting through you right right

24:42

everyone and they had some tough games

24:43

like i think they could have lost at

24:45

brentford or drew but they just city

24:47

never draw they either are bad and lose

24:50

they don't draw

24:51

and so you need that like you need those

24:53

cuts to sort of save people right that's

24:56

how that's how liverpool got pulled back

24:58

in:

25:00

and city just never they you know once

25:03

city gets moving it is a it is a train

25:06

that is very difficult to stop

25:09

yeah no it is um so we are 10 days in or

25:12

a third of the way through the uh the

25:14

transfer period oh the old transfer

25:16

windows

25:17

i gotta get the old transfer window

25:19

machine yeah go for it uh there's been

25:20

two moves of note uh kieran trippier uh

25:24

my friend is back in the day

25:26

this is not um front page news we've

25:28

done this for a little bit uh he has

25:30

gone to newcastle um surprised not to

25:33

see him in the team but i think we will

25:35

see him this coming weekend uh and then

25:38

of of more interest on loan

25:41

again a uh premier league old boy

25:44

philippe coutinho of liverpool fame

25:46

mostly for being sold for 150 million

25:49

dollars

25:51

uh also known as the man who built

25:53

liverpool

25:54

um

25:55

he is back he is with uh stevie g

25:58

ironically uh and aston villa so he

26:01

played with stevie g towards the end of

26:03

his career uh so that relationship i'm

26:05

sure is a positive one um and it's

26:08

interesting because he is a

26:12

he's what i think they wanted wendia to

26:14

be in this team uh they spent a third of

26:17

the grealish money on buendia and he i

26:19

thought buendia has been getting better

26:21

i i don't know i don't know i'm not i'm

26:22

not [ __ ] on bundia but he certainly

26:24

has not been as advertised and so i

26:26

think this

26:28

i don't think it's just up like

26:29

supplanting him i don't think it's like

26:31

you know one for one i think it's to uh

26:34

you know kind of

26:35

augment and and help him kind of move

26:37

forward and grow into the role so

26:39

especially on a loan spell um can i can

26:42

i ask you about bergvine being sent away

26:44

yeah no i can't i i will drive him and

26:47

i'm sure many others will you're done

26:49

with him yeah apparently

26:50

spurs rejected 15 million from my ah

26:53

yeah because what happens with daniel

26:54

levy is he's so blockheaded that he

26:56

refuses to accept failure when he fails

26:59

which is often uh oh

27:01

coupled with uh of course trioy gonna

27:03

come to

27:04

spurs as a wing back yeah yeah

27:08

it's not gonna happen

27:09

at this point i welcome it just because

27:10

it'll be interesting to watch uh he's

27:13

[ __ ] fun as [ __ ] yeah exactly so i'm

27:15

not worried too much about that but

27:17

you've got to move players on right yeah

27:19

i think that change would be good

27:21

because i think treyarch's probably

27:23

finishing his crossing is meh but

27:26

given how he plays

27:28

and given

27:29

kane

27:31

kane should at least be able to be

27:33

a

27:34

non-coconut-cracked humanist right well

27:37

i think right exactly i was going to say

27:38

think about as

27:40

wolves wolves and adama were kind of

27:43

uh ascending together

27:46

and and and treyori was creating havoc

27:48

on on all these players on all these

27:49

sides i should say he was crossing it in

27:52

pedro neto was wonderful and as soon as

27:54

he went down and jimenez was gone uh

27:56

there was exactly me and you in the box

27:58

to try and finish these so he's yeah no

28:00

his crossing's not that good but he will

28:02

be pushing it into harry kane and young

28:03

and son uh and i do think that that

28:05

could be the thing that should he still

28:07

lead

28:08

he still leads the league in uh in

28:10

dribbles oh i'm sure it's not even way

28:13

way over the top he's still so way over

28:15

the top um just looking at some other

28:17

names

28:18

smith

28:19

some french players

28:21

uh reach um

28:23

incomings at arsenal

28:26

no

28:28

soft rumor of wine album that's not

28:30

going to happen

28:32

like

28:32

because that would mean that liverpool

28:34

let's

28:35

wine album it's alone right

28:38

i don't think um

28:41

no would liverpool let wynaldom go to

28:44

arsenal i don't know if i don't know if

28:46

if ronaldo was alone to psg

28:49

no no he was he was a free transfer oh

28:52

okay free there you go uh wood to

28:54

burnley uh nice little player he

28:56

improves them chris wood nice little

28:59

nine to 15 goal scorer tarkovsky is out

29:02

of contract he could leave burnley maybe

29:04

burnley thinks they're done they're

29:06

going to cash in all their guys are old

29:08

who knows uh we don't know

29:10

and don belay you know it's so far

29:13

nothing crazy half of these 70 of these

29:16

rumors are complete utter and total

29:18

[ __ ] uh drummed up by agents there's

29:21

not the

29:22

there's not an atom shifter uh that's

29:25

that's even plugged in they kind of like

29:28

the guy is is fab is fabrizio and he's

29:31

kind of just says obvious things that

29:33

have happened

29:35

but he does it really well to be fair

29:37

but uh it's not really

29:39

not really anything going on i really

29:40

wish that like the guys from mlb trade

29:42

rumors and hockey trade rumors would do

29:45

transfers that would be [ __ ] it's

29:46

just so wide right like here's here's

29:48

the other thing like and as i uh look at

29:51

all the tables around the top five

29:53

leagues psg's up by 11 points um

29:57

is tight right um

30:00

uh and so inter isn't going to be

30:02

selling a lot of these big names these

30:05

like think about like the mlb trade

30:06

deadline line there's there or any

30:09

you know an nba nhl

30:12

there's not

30:13

there's not any big names in the shop

30:15

window really there's

30:16

reclamation projects there's a tangi and

30:18

dominate there's a deli alley right

30:20

there

30:22

the double jeopardy of relegation makes

30:25

it

30:26

different right but then american sports

30:28

but also aside from seria

30:30

you know i know you don't want to say it

30:32

but

30:33

four of the top five leagues in europe

30:36

are over

30:37

right so listen dortmund are only six

30:39

points behind barnaby i mean

30:43

uh i mean spain yeah spain's done you

30:46

know what i think no spain

30:48

yeah i'm sorry spain's done italy is the

30:50

only one that's tight

30:52

right

30:54

so so dortmund no no there's six and a

30:55

half points back because they are six

30:57

points back and

30:59

23 goals back

31:02

okay so that's comfortably a six and a

31:03

half

31:04

difference

31:05

you know what's funny yeah i mean the

31:07

funny thing is is yeah i mean chelsea

31:09

city are city were not with bayern and

31:11

now they are neck and neck for goal

31:14

difference per 90 right exactly goal

31:16

difference per 90 so in terms of quality

31:18

so city are just gone not only do you

31:20

not have the sellers you don't have and

31:22

i keep making baseball references on

31:24

this show that's fine but so be it it's

31:26

that yankees red sox cold war uh arms

31:29

race if you will uh they did something

31:31

[ __ ] we have to do something right so uh

31:34

so there's not i mean look you would

31:36

have that in italy but

31:37

i mean realistically you've got

31:39

paratichi knocking on every door saying

31:41

are you selling this player are you

31:42

selling this player so there a lot of

31:44

teams are in the mix still there so

31:46

they're sort of in the opposite

31:48

direction and and um there's really not

31:50

a lot of

31:52

in-demand players that are moving vlavic

31:55

from fiorentina is a name that we've

31:57

heard a lot over the summer but arsenal

31:59

are moving for him and he's like i'm

32:01

fine thank you so

32:03

much well i i think i think the the

32:06

difference here is

32:08

the the things that force moves in

32:11

european soccer are players out of

32:14

contract

32:16

who you want to move

32:18

before you get nothing for them so you

32:20

don't want in football you don't want to

32:22

let someone reach for agency ever

32:24

you want to keep resigning them keep

32:26

resigning which what spurs were really

32:28

good at for a long time i think levy was

32:29

sort of ahead of the game in that he

32:31

would give these guys contract after

32:32

contract so it never got to the end oh

32:34

and i think achieved at a young age

32:36

though right right right and then and

32:37

but it did it did save their ass right

32:39

like by doing that and tricking kane

32:41

they've kept kane oh okay kept costs

32:43

down completely yeah i agree yeah so it

32:45

is a move but i think i think the agents

32:47

have caught up to it this is one of

32:49

these other counter wars the agents are

32:51

starting like i ain't signing [ __ ] uh

32:53

let it i'm letting it run down and

32:54

you're seeing players do that now

32:56

letting their contracts run down i think

32:59

another key piece to remember is aside

33:01

from your messies and ronaldo's the

33:04

yearly salaries for these players are

33:05

not comparable to

33:08

[ __ ] mls numbers like insignia went from

33:10

napoli to toronto right insignia is a

33:14

national team striker starter

33:18

and [ __ ]

33:20

i mean that's a big deal like everything

33:22

else for all the money right and so

33:23

you're not getting the here's another

33:25

baseball reference because i was uh

33:26

drinking with my father watching old uh

33:29

late 90s yankees highlights you're not

33:31

getting a david justice on july 31st

33:33

right now

33:34

this player who's 35 and is still a huge

33:37

contributor for you that player is going

33:39

oh i have one big contract left i'm

33:41

going to mls because i'm gonna i'm just

33:43

gonna sit on a beach after the half the

33:45

week yeah but you know there's no

33:46

beaches in toronto

33:47

that's all right i think i think there

33:49

is a into miami

33:51

he did not go to miami yeah by the way i

33:53

drove past the stadium a couple weeks

33:54

ago it was pretty nice yeah yeah [ __ ]

33:56

that team was a disaster i i i kind of

33:58

knew i kind of had a feeling that

33:59

beckham is is a paper tiger it doesn't

34:01

actually have the money to fund that

34:03

team um

34:04

but yeah i i think that the transfer

34:06

window's interesting uh i'm more

34:08

interested to know to see these sort of

34:11

the the teams kicking on like you really

34:13

get a sense villa's like

34:15

we're kicking on they feel good about

34:17

what they have in gerard i think they

34:19

want to keep him i think they probably

34:21

have 18 months to be like we're aston

34:23

villa don't go to liverpool when clop

34:25

retires kind of thing uh

34:28

cat uh

34:30

we we

34:32

i'm interested in in what crystal palace

34:34

does i'm interested in where lester goes

34:37

what happens with everton i think

34:38

there's a lot of space here for

34:41

side stories right like

34:43

ken

34:44

brighton i know brighton won't find a

34:46

name for a striker that i know but i

34:48

would like to see eddie and ketia go

34:50

there i have heard uh

34:53

there are loans going to southampton for

34:56

young players that are the big teams

34:58

letting their young players go and

35:00

trusting the process of certain teams

35:02

that have good infrastructure your leads

35:04

like who doesn't want to send their

35:06

young players to leeds on their bielsa

35:08

right like

35:09

those types of things so i think that

35:11

that stuff's still interesting

35:13

um

35:14

you know the champions league is still

35:15

out there

35:16

for in terms of competitive and i think

35:18

that's another thing to think about when

35:20

you think about the european football

35:22

calendar yeah some of these leagues are

35:24

done but they do have we do have the

35:26

knockout tournament basically we've got

35:28

162 game schedule with the ncaa

35:31

tournament built into it

35:34

that's exactly what it is

35:35

yeah right so there's still to come

35:38

march madness there's still round of 16

35:40

there's still fa cup uh by the way there

35:43

is a

35:45

commissioner's cup coming to the nba so

35:48

it's starting to reflect back on each

35:49

other how they get the players to give a

35:51

[ __ ] about that

35:52

i have no idea oh my god imagine going

35:55

from oh my poor load management tech

35:57

here's more games oh goodness

36:00

um but no but at the same but at the

36:02

same time i mean it's load management in

36:04

england too right like they do look at

36:06

the size that arsenal had so yeah i mean

36:08

at that point will they play in the

36:10

quarterfinals and semi-finals and cup

36:12

final of the whatever the hell

36:14

commissioner's cup yeah but they will to

36:15

take a step back though the difference

36:17

is

36:18

and i do like this about football

36:21

they do not market the players they

36:24

market the teams like you're not even

36:26

supposed to give a [ __ ] if x player is

36:29

playing except for the two i guess

36:31

ronaldo and messi still

36:33

are about as big as you can get but sure

36:35

but if i get to if if i get to see real

36:38

madrid i don't care

36:40

if if ben's on my place yep i would i

36:42

went to see ray experience in the the

36:45

stadium experience which is

36:47

and i'm not gonna say it

36:48

you know college football is the only

36:50

thing that's close in in america you

36:52

know yeah and again that's another sport

36:54

where the players literally don't matter

36:56

right exactly they're actually

36:57

completely disposable and we don't care

36:59

about them by design at all

37:02

yeah it's disgusting

37:03

[Laughter]

37:05

which speaks

37:07

you're reporting this during halftime in

37:08

the national championship game that's

37:09

why i'm wearing this stupid hat because

37:11

oh what's this what is what is the score

37:13

young man

37:16

is it army versus notre dame

37:18

at the start of the second half it is

37:20

nine to six bama roll tag but that's why

37:23

i'm wearing a stupid hat i told you off

37:25

camera i'll tell you the story uh many

37:27

moons ago i was friends with a guy who's

37:28

a big bama fan uh who was worried about

37:31

notre dame uh and uh

37:33

you know when someone says they're a big

37:34

bama fan i hear in my head i'm a fan of

37:37

the clan

37:39

uh yeah maybe maybe he's a nice kid

37:41

though i don't really talk to him too

37:42

much anymore not so much on that uh

37:45

plane but he's a good dude and so um

37:49

he was telling me that he was genuinely

37:51

worried about seeing notre dame in the

37:53

national title game with nick saban's

37:55

alabama uh and for the uh english folks

37:58

who listen to the show i've already lost

37:59

you but that's okay uh so i tell him

38:02

this is a lot of parallels i tell him

38:04

that i

38:05

am so sure that notre dame is [ __ ] that

38:08

if they do

38:09

meet in the national title game i will

38:11

dress and i say you can quote me on this

38:14

i will dress like bear [ __ ] brian who

38:18

famously is one of the most famous

38:20

college coaches of all time is famous

38:22

for his houndstooth hat so that is what

38:24

i am wearing right now i had a a

38:27

checkered uh you'd actually love this i

38:29

had a checkered suit on red alabama tie

38:32

the checkered hat that would beat the

38:34

[ __ ] out of notre dame we went to an

38:35

irish bar on long island we had a great

38:37

time one of my other buddies kept

38:39

calling me willie lowman the entire time

38:42

it was better even better he never got

38:44

his name in the papers it was terrific

38:46

so uh so yeah that is our dated

38:49

reference of the week but yeah i mean

38:50

that's that's really all we've got

38:53

well let's let's think about what we've

38:54

got to look forward to we have the

38:56

premier league will return this weekend

38:58

we'll probably talk about these on

38:59

thursday but just to keep the uh the

39:02

fires burning

39:04

my friend you've got chelsea midweek

39:07

you've got arsenal on sunday i haven't i

39:09

haven't turned my attention to arsenal

39:11

yet i i'm and not only that city play

39:13

chelsea on saturday so uh there's some

39:16

big week there is uh there's this

39:18

cortine cerrasso cup shout out to the

39:20

intercity league fred saraso hey fred

39:22

who who doesn't like who doesn't like

39:24

mike he doesn't like you has never met

39:26

him

39:27

i don't like mike

39:28

yeah imagine waking up every day and

39:29

having to be me [ __ ] i don't

39:31

know he doesn't i think i think you

39:32

trigger him like uh douchebag long

39:34

island guys who bothered him his whole

39:36

life so there's that

39:37

a secret under underrated derby brighton

39:40

crystal palace on friday

39:42

also really good so i've got a lot of

39:44

games to make up for and then aston

39:46

villa rematch versus man united a little

39:49

bad blood uh

39:50

at this time at uh at

39:53

villa stadium uh so that's exciting i

39:56

think we can wrap it up we're searching

39:57

for things to talk about we did not talk

39:59

about afcon i have a take we'll talk

40:01

about it on thursday we're going to come

40:02

no i got it i got it wait very quickly

40:05

it's not being covered it's kind of

40:07

[ __ ] up

40:08

uh so espn fc went

40:11

four segments in before they mentioned

40:14

it uh there has been a lot of talk about

40:16

hey african uh based players or uh

40:19

players of african national descent why

40:22

don't you just stay home and not go and

40:24

they're like dude it's the [ __ ] chain

40:26

it's

40:26

the european cup for africa [ __ ] you i'm

40:29

going by the way it's very sweaty it's

40:32

very a lot of moisture and a lot of bad

40:35

penalties and i mean some wild penny to

40:37

these look in the stands i think the

40:39

thing that i found really interesting

40:41

and i thought about this for a second

40:42

and i don't

40:43

i don't know what it means but this is

40:45

my feeling it feels

40:48

[ __ ] amazing to see because i watched

40:50

cameroon versus burkina faso in cameroon

40:53

this has been delayed and and held off

40:55

three times already so they've tried to

40:57

have this tournament three times

40:58

a stadium of black players playing

41:01

another black team in a stadium full of

41:03

black people there's something

41:05

great about it and i can't enumerate it

41:08

and i just it feels good it's like you

41:10

got your own [ __ ] thing look at you

41:11

go

41:12

good you deserve it i know it's

41:15

it's awesome in the in the context of i

41:17

mean

41:19

i remember when bob bradley was coaching

41:20

egypt that country was in the midst of a

41:22

civil war and they came together over

41:24

this

41:25

we talk about this this stupid [ __ ]

41:28

game uh and how much we try to

41:30

you know display how much it means to us

41:33

we're americans watching a british game

41:36

thousands of miles away yeah here's the

41:38

problem we actually genuinely don't have

41:41

any real context right you've lived in

41:44

england i've been to a few games over

41:45

there we understand the culture we don't

41:48

live and immerse ourselves in it we try

41:50

to from the side of the pond i do as

41:52

much as i can and so

41:54

yeah keep going one step further now

41:56

you're in africa where generally

41:59

speaking the poverty line is even

42:15

it's almost like it's at the sec it

42:16

means more it's not some [ __ ] slogan

42:19

it does it

42:20

unites a [ __ ] country during a civil

42:23

war like that's the best illustrator i

42:25

can give of this right the famous the

42:27

other famous one there was a civil war

42:29

didier drogba literally stopped one yeah

42:32

and caught the war that happened that

42:34

was real right he literally brokered the

42:37

beast a football player so so

42:39

and by the way we're gonna let's pretend

42:41

for a second that there aren't some of

42:43

the absolutely you said did a drug

42:46

represe edward mendy right off the top

42:48

of my head three completely world-class

42:51

players right

42:53

really i had been rama it but so it's

42:55

not okay well we've fallen off but it's

42:57

not it's not the point is that you know

42:59

that there's you know no talent there

43:01

this is compelling

43:03

just as almost as much as as the euros

43:05

was from a talent standpoint for sure

43:06

and so you know to have them do their

43:09

own i tell you right now it's better

43:11

than the [ __ ] gold cup it's

43:12

definitely better than a gold cup right

43:14

so

43:15

it's by a lot yeah

43:17

so um so you have but but they do have

43:20

fun they do there is funny things like

43:22

goalkeeping

43:24

can be really bad like

43:26

you're just like

43:28

yeah you get these weird like there's a

43:29

position for a country that's weak or

43:31

they're not into that and you're just

43:33

like oh this is bad like i think senegal

43:35

will be fine because

43:37

i think another piece that's interesting

43:38

and i'll and i'll wrap up is

43:40

the

43:42

institutional power of france

43:46

france literally supplies these teams

43:48

with players because of their

43:49

immigration because the other right but

43:52

they're born there and back and forth

43:54

but the training the institutional stuff

43:56

of the claremont and how france has

43:59

pushed down a lot of training a lot of

44:00

local boys clubs a lot of stuff where

44:02

people like hey france has really high

44:04

toxics yeah

44:06

and it's inefficient but it does

44:08

get these

44:09

immigrant kids or second generation kids

44:12

they play for their countries and they

44:14

got trained in france it won them a

44:15

world cup all right those taxes won them

44:17

a world cup yeah the other one is france

44:20

literally put more players in the world

44:23

cup than any country in the world

44:25

they somehow had like 47 or 48 different

44:28

players from france yeah anyway i'm

44:30

gonna wrap it up that was the squeaky

44:32

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44:34

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44:37

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44:38

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