In Episode #136 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Mike and Laurent are joined by Mike’s brother and resident Liverpool fan Chris to discuss their 2-0 victory over Arsenal to advance to the Carabao Cup Final. Also:
- Steven Bergwijn scores two stoppage time goals to take Tottenham from misery to elation in miracle fashion over Leicester City
- Manchester United paper of the cracks in 1-3 win vs Brentford
- Chelsea sputter again this time against the upstarts of Brighton in a draw at the AmEx
- Watford and Norwich City play in a massive six-pointer in the relegation race
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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum
time podcast it's a big one it is friday
january 21st
in this episode liverpool get past
arsenal united luck out against our
ex-girlfriend brentford but first mike
how do you feel after scoring
two goals
in nine seconds in the 95th minute i
feel alive
i feel alive i feel great i feel amazing
it was the best
three to four minutes
of tottenham fandom since the iax lucas
moore miracle in 2019 and that is not
even close to an exaggeration it has
been tough sledding since that goal went
in literally
and uh it was that moment of
of just invincibility you're like oh my
god literally anything is possible um
i was sitting here with my brother who's
visiting for the week and we were
chatting about uh you know we were
talking about the game how betting on
tottenham was a sucker bet i had friends
when it was 1-1 ask me like mike what do
you think like hit tottenham live and i
was like [ __ ] don't do that and then
lester went up 2-1 i was like i told you
like this is just what they do the
expected goals depending on what site
you you look at there's a couple of
different numbers it's five they were
expected to score five [ __ ] goals in
this game
it's insane well didn't i
i shared it with you somewhere in the at
the half i was like whoa what is going
on it was oh yeah 22 to 10. all over
them yeah all killing them yeah um so it
was a win that they deserved that they
didn't deserve that they ended up
getting
uh
miraculously it felt unbelievable
has caught a lot of [ __ ] from tottenham
has caught a lot of [ __ ] on this show
hoy beer was amazing matt doherty
fantastic for 45 minutes
so uh i don't think royal's gonna play
again he may not and and there's
anything it's not good
just everything finally started to click
a little bit
in that game like i said five expected
goals through the whole 90 minutes now i
was listening
about how lester found their way to the
back of the net twice
uh that's still same old tottenham
you were both spursy and anti-spursy in
the same game and there's multiple
videos of the the difference between
like the sections between uh the end of
the away support and come on in
all right we've got a guest host
uh
he's gonna need headphones he's gonna
need headphones well he can have one of
mine
hey brother how are you my brother chris
good day sir um yeah so going through
the tottenham game we're talking about
the tottenham game we are uh
we're trying to figure out how
how that happened
and then at the same time like like at
the line i saw multiple videos at the
line of the away support
there's lester fans like [ __ ] you you
[ __ ] bottlers and in the same second
of the video the guy turns the camera
and bergvine is played in by kane and
the guy literally you see his soul leave
his [ __ ] body and it's fantastic
that's fantastic so but i do i do want
to i mean a lot there hugo laura signs a
two-year contract i think it was two
years yeah uh there's a lot of hope in
tottenham and as i look at the schedule
they [ __ ] have to go to stanford
bridge again on sunday why are you
afraid of chelsea we'll get we'll get
into chelsea i'm not afraid of them i'm
just tired let me
let me right but let me go through the
scores there were there are a handful of
midweek scores that we have to color
first burnley watford is canceled again
burnley have five games in hand my
beloved brighton put the [ __ ] whoop
onto chelsea at home 1-1 draw a
thundering header from the best team
still no one respects even though
expected goals say it wasn't close it
was close brighton were good chelsea's
still not good we just discussed it
lester two bro spurs three lester are
terrible daca scored which is nice
madison scored which was nice so yenshu
is the best worst player i've ever seen
collapse into nothing faster than i
don't know and then brentford won
manchester united three
branford was so so good in the first
half they did exactly what we wanted
them to do they got that 25 minutes of
thunder they did everything they were
supposed to but united simply are better
i had a thought about this and brentford
are clearly trying to do finishes for
precision and not power and that hurt
them in this game and i think that is
like
wrapping up week 16 and week 24. there's
a lot of things being mixed together we
don't know what week of the season we're
in we're catching up with games we're
gonna have midweek games the rest of the
season but
let us get deeper a little bit into
spurs before we go to
i think liverpool arsenal goes it is the
right path what i really liked about
this and you mentioned it is hoiberg
passing
forward
yeah finally
like right
but but what i noticed was remember we
talked about winks the same way
kante getting into them that it's if you
pass this ball sideways
one more [ __ ] time i'm gonna kick you
so hard up the ass i'm gonna pull my wig
out of your mouth
do you know what i mean like he's just
enough
just we're better than these people go
get them that's soyensu he's terrible
kick his ass again by the way we talked
about this 10 weeks ago
[ __ ] peter schmeichel is the problem
no one wants to say it
peter and casper all the schmeichel's
peter taught him the problem
whatever he's old he gives up goals i
don't know where he was going with burg
wine
um i don't think that well his hesitancy
was the problem right as soon as kane
plays that ball if you come off your
line you probably get there but here's
the thing like a back four
lives first from their goalkeeper that's
the first thing you need
sure right okay and it's clear there's
something wrong and maybe it's because
they know they've defended balls that
schmeichel has stopped before that he no
longer stops well it takes an adjustment
period right you're like you assume that
that is effectively
a chance that's squashed right and
you're like all right that's you know i
don't almo you put it out of your mind
and also at the same time bergvine's
coming on and he's
totally fresh he's finally had 50
minutes warm up and he like king just
said go get it yeah and the other thing
is i will be fair like this isn't the
game to pick on schmeichel he made like
47 saves no he was great
he was actually quite good in this game
and he but you're right but
statistically this year he has not been
very good at all yeah um so actually
quick
i have never looked at the stats of him
historically but in those years when
lester was really performing was he
having one of those years where he was
performing whatever he did he expected
goals against he was doing much they
don't i don't think they have it that
far back he's been historically good but
this season he has been bad
all right yeah
that's the best and the best goalkeeper
is jose saw by a lot like it's like yeah
no and he's he's got wolves in games
almost by himself well
refuses to have more than a goal in the
entire game right period like no all
right so lester are minus three and a
half which isn't too bad they were worse
they've gotten better so maybe
schmeichel's gotten better but now de
gea is now at plus 10.
he's having a renaissance here too
though i mean yeah and we talked about
it how i picked him uh in in our what
halfway team of the season for for
keeper of the year yeah and i i get the
ramsdell hype uh because he wears a
gunner shirt and he's in the
conversation but the correct answer is
saw i
right right right but no i mean
and if you were what we probably should
have done by the way was have the best
and the worst 11 of the year and we
should do that
did you notice that brentford ditched
their goalkeeper that i said sucked yes
yeah they
brentford big fans of the show obviously
yeah i was like yeah this guy's not good
he's got to go no who was it there well
their their starter got hurt and you
called it up right away you can draw a
straight line
between their ascendancy that injury and
their frankly current form and we're
going two three months later on this so
they'll be fine
nobody knows anyone's names on brentford
it's okay if we don't know their names i
know all right i know brian i know brian
bueno has hit the post 47 times yeah and
that's the key thing that i know and
that they don't shoot hard they all were
doing side-footed shots yeah and they
have four danish people in the midfield
now it's a little too much for me that's
that's too much too much too many danish
uh and there was interesting
chris actually saw the end of that game
it was three mil united and bredford
scored a late kind of consolation goal
what was the line that peter drury had
oh it was devastating
he gets all excited and he just goes oh
and there it is and so during the day
i'm
looking at my computer so i don't know
how much time is left in the clock
there it is and brentford has
a marginal interest and i was just like
oh
oh
jury one of the old times yeah but they
they they got they got a goal they
deserved i think the thing for brentford
is and we can we can just slip into that
game it's just united played badly in
the first half and could have easily
been losing
by a lot like they hit the post twice i
think
uh you know de gea again saving their
ass and they're just not quite in the
right space i think rangnick is figuring
out he can't play
the deuces wild formation which i'm
calling it because i want to put some
american food
yeah some american football style would
do running deuces wild uh but and he has
figured out if i'm gonna play ronaldo i
gotta have people running with him so he
put alanga and greenwood in elanga is a
runner this is the thing that united
under
woodward had had to have not been able
to figure out it's
if you don't have guys who work or your
super size don't work you have to put
guys who work in like the first thing a
player needs to do is work if you have
all all class all flash you lose so he's
finding guys who will work and have
enough quality to get you know rashford
sancho sancho you can't play until you
run like alanga right and what do we i
mean it's not quite it's sort of the
it's like one level above what we always
call englishness on the show right like
like it's it's the
the get stuck in the piece where you
need to go get the ball win the 50 50 so
that you can free ronaldo or greenwood
or whoever on the wing right the middle
jean the milliner jean that's actually a
good we might use that football cliches
are in there is truth you earn the right
to play you've got to run you've got to
win 50 50s then you can go do your thing
and that's what uh my guy cucarella you
want kookarella on spurs please fine yes
please please go watch go go everyone go
look at brighton games and watch
kookarella and lame team
i would take lansi but we'll see maybe
everyone else in europe maybe uh maybe
not chelsea they let him go they just
ditched his ass yeah by the way i was
watching uh i was watching the espn show
that i know you think i'm [ __ ] for
watching but i watch it anyway uh what
craig burley yeah and burly stops in the
middle of it and he's just like talking
about chelsea being bad and he takes a
beat and he goes
they had de bruyne and salah
you said that today yeah we're so really
just talking about it i saw um in
passing
either i don't know if it's in effect or
being floated a rule of a cap of a man
alone they're trying to work on it yes
yeah so and i was just making the point
of how i'm in favor of it
it is it is only to international you
can't loan internationally you have to
keep them internally but fifa will then
try to sort of force the countries to do
that think the thing that's crazy about
in the right direction it seems like of
and that's a biased statement to be fair
like whether you agree with that or not
my point was i felt that the current
system allowed for
just kind of an abuse of
the example of letting de bruyne and
salad go while also stunting the growth
of how many other players
i don't know i like the
deregulated nature of football and i
don't like the idea of fifa telling the
world how to
manage their leagues [ __ ] you
we do it how we do it okay here's
another way to come for the fa as
opposed to
right if it's if it's you don't don't
tell me how to [ __ ] run my league
that's fair because i think about it in
terms of like weird mls things like don
garber is always like
if [ __ ] roger goodell had to deal
with a governing body that was two
levels up from my league he would lose
his mind like the idea that fifa's rules
can affect the mls they're just like
[ __ ] you it's my goddamn league in my
country i want to do what the [ __ ] i
want we're having goddamn shootouts and
the clock's going the other way
this is how we do it right and it
doesn't work of course but anyway uh we
should probably get into liverpool
arsenal
again
liverpool fan who had the first 15
minutes arsenal i'd say they definitely
did yeah no they were they came out hot
that was yeah absolutely i'll let you
take the floor there liverpool fan yeah
no so they came out hot martinelli
mit proved
all the trent haters correct on his
defense for the first 15 minutes it was
just which is that yeah
and i'm not i'm not defending it
i don't like when he's one-on-one put it
that way
you can see it's a there's a basketball
thing you can see it he doesn't get in a
stance he's too upright he's hesitant
he's he's literally like what's this guy
gonna do everything no he stands he's
way too upright he's not on his toes and
guys just go past him yeah he listen it
doesn't mean you don't play him he's
[ __ ] incredible yeah i know but the
people who are like he's flawless like
guys come on he's very nice
and he moved it in both the goals
incredible passes just like get the [ __ ]
out of here yeah it did also how about
that tiago
yeah um
i had said earlier i was kind of making
the point of he reminded me of when
money had came over and just after a
while like
i don't know i'm always a little
hesitant to jump on the new signing like
oh this guy scored a couple goals right
away he like i just always hate that
kind of perspective
and
jota just
for probably what 12 18 months just
consistent performances went healthy and
doing everything kind of talk about
making all the runs and doing everything
you need absolutely love them so i have
i have an interesting thought so so we
know arsenal are through the moment the
momentum we talked about with oh sorry
liverpool are through to the final yep
the final okay again potentially chelsea
against chelsea yeah that'll be
that would have been tough a month ago
now i don't think it's so tough uh
depending on when salah and money come
back but i have a big question for you
you have that front three of firmino
mana and saleh salah
they're on over five years together
unheard of no three players have played
together up front like that
ever
it's bizarre
it's like the core four
time it would be if like those guys had
played even longer like 20 years
together
who should go
with the knowing that you have jyota
um
to be honest i don't think there's a
right answer because i think it's
there's an i know the answer
no because i think you keep i think you
turn it into a four-man committee
exactly basically what they're doing
and then firmino eventually is the one
who bites the dust unless you can get
you're not going to get any market value
for any of them at this point really are
you kidding worth no you're going to
you'll get it for solo or money but i
was like obviously not marketing that's
worth getting rid of i don't want no
they're not worth no no no they're not
willing to lose for me no now but it's
not going to get anything
i think it's the other way around i
think the money is the is the weak link
and i think that bobby is not even
though he doesn't score he's really
the midfield number 10 linchpin that you
don't know you have that you need
because when he's not playing you don't
create anything the reason i don't agree
with that as much is i don't think that
our 433 works in the way of having the
number 10 linchpin the way it did when
we won the champions league that was how
our offense operated we don't work like
that as much anymore we're going back to
the 2017 salah up top through the middle
so i totally hear you but right the one
that was the one that was the team that
couldn't defend and would just play up
and down oh how fun was that man
it was like the 2013-14 all over he's
saying all the time yeah oh man yeah i
you're not i'm
you're 20 points behind just don't worry
about it you're fine don't enjoy it
enjoy it we were saying this the other
day i mean liverpool and i think there's
there's nobody who's gonna win i live in
the city no it's like they're a cup team
and it's not it's not a knock on them
it's not a knock on chelsea exactly but
they're a cup team now and and so now
you've got two who's who who's a cup
team now liverpool well frankly [ __ ]
everybody except for city
uh liverpool and chelsea specifically
right because they're in all three con
competitions liverpool and chelsea are
literally already in the final in one of
them they're all they're both i think
they have advantageous matchups in the
round of 16 in the gym no we did until
they redid it and we got injured that's
correct wow i mean come on i mean i'm
not actually salty about it it's the way
you teed it up like well sure sure
but yeah i mean so
the thing is is like even with this
sort of sputtering chelsea
and
sputtering liverpool more due to the the
african cup of nations and who knows if
if van dijk ever got to 100 and all the
things that happened whatever the
midfield basically disappearing because
milner and henderson should never ever
ever play together and they do sometimes
which is baffling um but i think they i
think that liverp we've talked about it
a million times i'm sure mike's brought
it up liverpool's 11 plus anfield is the
best group in the world and that 11
everyone knows what that 11 is right
it's it's fabinho henderson and not
milner
yeah and that's yago ginny whoever
whoever it is whoever it is and then the
four robertson uh taa
you know uh
phil in the blind matip i think is the
better one of the he's he's taken the
role so we know that that group over two
legs with anfield if they're there they
win the thing is they can't lose one guy
any piece comes out of that group and it
doesn't work
basically right whereas city and we were
i was listening to the the two robbies
podcast and they had they had steve
boyer on yes of hardcore manchester
united he literally worked for
manchester united tv but at least he's
the least fair he's just like
the city squad
we were saying it's 18 deep now i think
it's 25.
there's just no
there's no weak link yeah it's a it's a
weakling sport and city literally have
no weak link like
just bring it up and i didn't even think
about it because it because city played
so well
no diaz against chelsea john stone just
come back out of the [ __ ] wilderness
yep no problem
well that's i mean that's classic pep
right like throw him into the wolves see
if he can fly and that way when i need
him he's there right and this was a game
where like you know if chelsea won that
game not even if they drew if they won
that game
then they're
not the they're the old guy from monty
python i'm like oh i'm not done yet but
like you're still like it's still cities
to lose by a comfortable margin right
because at that point you're still i
think
six points clear maybe 70. it would have
been seven
seven seven with a game so you're really
realistically between nine and ten yeah
um
so
he goes
this is a big one this is a big test
let's see how you do because in the
event that diaz goes down that something
happens i can call on you john stones i
know the thing is i trust john stones i
know that there are portions of some of
those seasons
where he was the best defender on the
team he and laporte were [ __ ]
incredible like it's in him he's in the
january third night 2019 game it's his
foot off the line it's his clearance i
know
i'm gonna kick you because that game
when i mention it
i get goosebumps and i could cry
that was the greatest game speaking of
and you pointed this out
yeah you pointed this out going back to
spurs for a second it is the latest game
in premier league history to go from
down to up and winning
and it ever dc it unseated do you know
what it was my game at 20 years old your
game the aguero game so we've chris even
said like oh man that was an awesome
game like that kind of sucks that that's
what it'd be and i feel the same way but
you know what that was [ __ ] awesome
that was good it wasn't quite an aguero
i mean
we've sort of lost direction on the show
and it's fine because we're probably
covering on all the teams we want to
cover but i do think about like
glory and where my team is and where
spurs is and where liverpool are
compared to men united and compared to
how they're covered and all these things
like ronaldo throw the pissy fit on the
on the field it's the lead headline and
everyone talks about the united game
right and the spurs thing was b-block in
a lot of podcasts just like oh wasn't
that fun that's why we love football so
it's that kind of thing and then cities
are always like i don't know what to say
about them but you know it's like what
like whereas if it was united playing
that way
every player would be would be dissected
there would be no question whether it
was the greatest team of all time right
it just wouldn't be they just already
were and they were just having all those
gonna carry them to the title he was
winning all those games
so remember when ronaldo was gonna carry
i did and i thought and i and i did say
it on the pod i i really thought
that oh actually that wasn't even shot
at you i was no no no
ronaldo i thought
was the right group of players
we just
didn't realize
the sort of iceberg of damage that oled
was putting on that team like oh they
just literally haven't been coached for
four years and again mourinho might be
an [ __ ]
and he might destroy clubs but he might
also not be wrong right he might also be
like these guys are [ __ ] [ __ ]
they suck like i can't work with them at
all i can't and then i was looking
through the seasons the other day just
to go through it
and that
that um mourinho team that finished in
second
to city when they the centurion team he
was like that was my best performance it
was they led the league in defense
they had 15
terrible
not that was nothing that was not the
first year that mcguire was on the team
i think right no no no mcguire came
after because he he proved he threw a
[ __ ] hissy fit after because he
didn't get maguire
right he got bae instead of maguire
he had phil jones and bae
right right right right so where do you
want to go well well we've got games
coming up as uh later today so uh i mean
it's not much of one it's watford in
north city however it is like the eighth
time they've tried to play it is yeah
probably it is one of the biggest games
in what's where is becoming a four-man
race for for 17th place right so um so
this one is big for me
it's bigger for norwich than it is for
watford just because watfords still have
the oopsies games in hand but this is a
game where you you can't
either team can't afford to lose right
if it's a draw similar to watford
newcastle no harm no foul we live to see
another business this this is a watford
win and i'll tell you why
[ __ ] terrible watford can score
norwich can't score and watford's
weakness is the defense and they will
not get broken down by this team
and so i agree i think the biggest thing
i think this relegation battle is really
interesting is i don't i i think burnley
has no shot those games in hand don't
matter like i don't i don't think they
can score enough unless corny goes nuts
i like we talked about it last week the
only thing that makes you think that
burnley is not going down is dice it's
all on reputation there's no reason for
that team to stay up
none absolutely zero
like just that they're up for the fight
that's the reason
that's not enough it's just that they
have more rounds in the fight left and
i'm not going to count them out when the
margins are so razor thin but if we're
looking at them on balance watford is
clearly of the and we've said this
before of the four teams the most
talented the most resolute but what they
do have is a trigger happy ownership and
if they lose this game yeah not only are
they going to lose
points in the standings to norwich but
they might fire in harry
he's that close he's that [ __ ] close
at all times you have to always account
for that with water
right you do have to account for madness
for insanity yes what's that you have to
account for
yeah for variable change right so it's
like so so you've got watford sitting
there teetering on disaster which could
be self-inflicted for all we know but
this is a game that like you said this
is a game that if you
if you're worth yourself in the premier
league you go and you beat north city
and go all right
you guys are there there is a line
between us and you and
and i'm not a um
[Music]
here's one thing to think about
benitez is out there
and yeah eddie howe
keeps [ __ ] up
how much will
will newcastle just be like he wasn't
available
when i hired three months ago yeah right
so
i you know maybe
so will yuno then be the second longest
tenured coach
in the league this year he might be
i don't know i mean i don't expect how
to get fired but you don't know i mean
it's new owners they're a complete black
box
they're they
that's not their problem they can't stop
anything no
no anyway i haven't i mean
so united west ham going from the
relegation fight to the top four fight
is a huge one on saturday um
i don't know what to make of really
either team recently uh so
oh i'm really excited for that one is
that is that is it old trafford or or at
that time
that's at old trafford
so i mean
that used to mean something i don't know
that it does right now but uh i don't
know yeah i can't the only thing i can
think of is how badly
west ham played against leeds like they
couldn't defend um
zuma's back in training that's huge for
them that means that they kind of
survived
the top four without zuma who made a
difference for them
there there's nothing in united's
performances that says they're gonna
beat west ham
only historical reasons say that they
won't beat west ham west ham are a
better team
what's that you could say the same thing
about west ham with united especially
going into old trafford no no i
understand that but what i'm saying is
is
based on this season based on coaching
everything says west ham should be able
to go
into united and get a result but the
variable is west united are [ __ ]
weird they could just beat them out of
the blue because they have so many good
players like one break sancho gets past
cresswell
top bins you're like oh [ __ ]
but on balance i don't expect a
performance from united on balance
that says that they are better than west
ham they will not perform they may hang
in because that's literally what united
do
they hang in
and hope de gea saves them if the hair
has a bad game they lose by three
sure
so you're saying earlier cliches like
they are earned and you know they do
come up talking about no backbone no
spine to the team
that's all i see when i watch united for
the last how many years so anytime they
had a flashy yeah sancho ronaldo
on the counter attack absolutely
terrifying but
over the balance of any duration i am
not
worried by that team at all and to me
west ham is the exact team where if you
don't have that backbone unless ronaldo
has a great
goal a corner quarterback right here he
hasn't and he has 10 feet higher than
everybody and gets that goal for weeks
though he hasn't done [ __ ] exactly so
what you're telling me antonio or
whoever bowen isn't going to grab one
and then make it two nothing and united
can't get back like they just said they
have nothing they have no resources
i do i do
want to give credit to united one of the
things that you felt like they were weak
and they would always give up goals now
de gea has been incredible
a ha you have there have been a lot of
clean sheets they haven't done anything
going forward they've muddled things up
so they could prevent
west ham from scoring i mean west ham
are not exactly prolific bowen is hit or
miss i mean he [ __ ] should have had a
draw he shanked it yeah shank did he
just didn't use his head like literally
he both didn't use his head and
literally didn't use his head
but i mean
uh
going back like on balance i would say
that the cohesiveness of west ham says
like you said that they should go in and
get a result or feel good about the game
regardless of how it comes absolutely
but again i still default to
the star power on united and it being so
scattered around the field bruno is is
shooting for fun again i don't know that
sancho will play but i mean aalenga is
scoring for [ __ ] sake now um listen so
i think he had two against brentford
yesterday
so yeah i mean it was rashford who
scored one okay and again rashford's out
of the dog house so um
if they're able to control the midfield
if listen this game is going to it feels
like it comes down to
uh if rice
is out of them exactly if he's able to
impose his will in the midfield and sort
of isolate the ronaldos and and and
everybody who's on that attacking third
for united then you could see west ham
at least
at least getting a draw comfortably well
i mean i it's about for west ham
they could they could lose and play well
is the problem like united can win and
play badly which is essentially what
they do they win games playing like crap
i i am
i'm weirdly afraid of this southampton
game for city because weird [ __ ] happens
i don't know why
city cities kind of do for one of those
stinkers they are but at the same time
you don't have the context of laurent
who uh could have a ferrari and go man i
really this thing needs an oil change by
the way i just this sunday city feels
that way yeah
i always think that i'm gonna lose but
he's self-loathing like you've never
seen before yeah and so i think that uh
they yeah that let's say they lose to
southampton fart noise nobody cares it's
still their league yeah but i do think
that palace against liverpool at
selhurst is such tricky
tricky fixture especially with the
weakness in the midfield of liverpool i
could see
my guy conor gallagher player of the
season [ __ ] getting it done he's a
big game guy he shows up he's got the
chelsea gene right he shows up
and he
he you saw him against tyler he was
foaming at the [ __ ] mouth because
he's like i like beating these people
he's got he's going to come out and play
and and liverpool is already a little
bit thin in the midfield they just
played earlier today yesterday whatever
uh and
it's going to be hard for them to turn
on i get they have the extra day on
sunday but crystal palace is sitting
there like i said they're waiting for
this game
is going to have
i don't think liverpool's gonna win that
game but i don't think it's because of
the midfield the fabinho anderson jones
midfield is so good yeah jonathan jones
we were talking about it in the uh build
up the arsenal game i was like
obviously the lineup's not going to be
great i saw that midfield like that i'm
actually confident they're going to win
now and at no point in the build up was
i will as long as as long as it's not
henderson milner together i think no and
totally agreed and they may they may
flip that they may go fab milner
um jones
whatever
i i don't i would rather henry as much
as the world loves milner and i and i
and i i'm not advocating for him it's
just i just i tweeted this is one of the
great things is
milner and wayne rooney are the same age
and came into the league at the same
time and no two human faces could look
more different and more destructive and
it's literally like the crack photo that
they put up with people from florida one
person drank and smoked their whole life
and one didn't and milner is the one who
didn't now it doesn't compare like
rooney's an incredible player but it
just makes you sad you're like ronaldo's
playing he's the same age as rooney
milner is playing he's the same age and
rooney now rooney will just go well i
had a better time so [ __ ] you guys
did you [ __ ] someone's grandmother
because i did
rudy you walk into a bar where he looks
at the ex-cop who's just sitting there
just absolutely wasted on a two-year-old
i got arrested for being drunk while
playing for dc united like yeah right
right right what are you doing guy
who's he yelling at it's like he
couldn't get any of the [ __ ] scouse
out of him right
so the sunday slate has four i'd argue
good games we talked i don't think
personally probably won't play by the
way
burnley you think burnley's gonna end up
getting postponed oh one more time yeah
like like like daft punk
well it sounds like they are changing
the rules because it uh the the because
it's [ __ ] well that the uk has the
same money they've completely 180 on
restrictions mandates passports
everything yeah no masks they're done
they're done which is a breath of fresh
air but so
assuming this game goes along arsenal
with their tail kicked firmly between
their legs in a game that they had a lot
to say in early on at least um no part a
no xhaka are you did show up he got back
from africa no no he got a red guard
showed up
he landed but is that does that red card
go to the league yep yes they do it's
all fa competitions okay so jacques and
partay both gotten red cards in that tie
against liverpool they're both out
so they're gonna be hurting in in the
defensive midfield one would argue xhaka
is subtract addition by subtraction but
burnley might have
is exactly the team that arsenal blow
the doors off of i know
but this is historical arsenal this is a
different arsenal team right like they
and listen martinelli will run roughshod
over burnley berlin excuse me but is he
gonna play because he sort of made a
glass as well we've been singing his
praises for a year now and it pains me
to say this as a gunner but like he's
great but he can't stay on the field so
is is arteta gonna play him two games in
in four days i don't know this is
classic arsenal they take these 442
clouded dust goon teams and light them
up
and make you think that they're good
sure and then they play good teams and
they lose
right well yeah i mean this
embarrassingly and what i'm saying is
coming off of the juice of a potential
win at home over liverpool
you know squad doesn't matter you beat
the jersey you go to wembley in the
final against your rival
uh no yeah well i mean it's a check
again a lot of arsenal season has been a
check of how they handle things so it's
another moment if they can come up and
go okay this team's gonna try and punch
us in the face we're depleted they
haven't played since
since the [ __ ] cotton gin was created
and the first strikes in the coal wells
coal mines happened and you know all
these things happened you know since uh
peter the the massacre at peterloo in
1618 whatever looking look it up i got
it wrong i think it's 1816. um
you know sure but uh you know the mills
will run on time in uh in [ __ ]
burnley we're making [ __ ] cotton okay
it's time
or wool or whatever the [ __ ] those yeah
that's but i would say even so of the
four games that is probably the least
interesting
your beloved brighton let's [ __ ] go
you're winning that game
going into no no
you don't have it you don't know
brighton
let me rephrase they're going to win the
xg in that game yes
they're going to outplay them and then
[ __ ] our our favorite french
i didn't rape her
uh mr mopey will score a goal in the
last minute and get a draw yeah
and i think lester is interesting
because the team that spurs played was
not the team that will show up on sunday
and that's a good thing for lester
harvey barnes didn't feature uh he came
in late he came in he said he said he he
was saying he played 15 20 minutes yeah
yeah he's gonna play on sunday james
justin made an appearance finally after
almost a full year on the sidelines with
an acl injury i was happy to see him
back we have to we have to talk about
brendan
is he a loser
well
i'll give you the floor on that
even when he was winning i thought he
was kind of a loser but he was winning
so it was all right now he gets that fa
cup
he takes a leicester team that as much
as everyone wants to say oh they're just
glad to be there they're glad to be
there they bottled two top four finishes
i mean they collapsed
both
seasons by another name
what buy another name you'd call them
bottlers right i'm happy i mean are they
just familiar with one of them something
is not fresh in denmark frankly like
there's something about him or maybe he
needs to get over the hump or maybe he
just needs to do something but something
about
his little stubby fingers and weird nose
just uh just make me you don't have
confidence like when you see lester up
and doing things you're just like oh
okay and then you think of the the games
against city where it's just like
they're down four no four nil and it's
the most ass kickingly ass kicked anyone
has been ass kicked but they come back
and they almost [ __ ] tie the game
right yeah 4-4 so which which team is it
and which
is it because rogers can play when he's
free and he's an underdog like you know
the whole season in that 13-14 they
would be a city they were not they were
way behind they were way ahead of
schedule that that team should never
have been anywhere near that but luis
suarez went [ __ ] interplanetary and
if he goes to aston villa it's the
greatest thing that's ever [ __ ]
happened i didn't hear that i didn't
work
that's purely poetic
[Laughter]
who do villa have they have some weird
team yeah they have everything away no
they have ever ooh that's a weird game
yeah it is that's the game i feel that
way about every time i see everton and
or villa on the schedule i go yeah what
are you
you know not really i mean i have a
better idea what villa are at this point
especially continue in the fold
especially uh they're starting to put
the pieces all together again and if
they get suarez that's a hell of an
addition
um
this is a game
back together that would be amazing
yeah you you look at this villa should
win this game yeah right and then danny
is just like [ __ ]
yeah
these guys these liverpool bastards
don't get out of my way well he was on
liverpool i remember he broke his
[ __ ]
legs that's what i'm saying like
wherever he is in his life so he was
literally supposed to replace suarez he
was after lambert he came in
no i'm not making them
so and then they can sell uh ollie
watkins to arsenal and everything will
work yeah the ecosystems the ecosystem
works um
yeah i i think villa comes out strong
everton is just so
and a mess but big duncan gets
performances out of them especially i
mean that's the thing he's got that he's
going to give them fight he's going to
give them
he's going to put the weight of history
on them whereas benitez took all of
their history away from them right and
it was all precision and tactical and
you play like this but there was no
no warmth no everton-ness of it but with
duncan there will be everton this and i
do remember the last time he came in
they i mean they got a bump
they played chris said like
the king of englishness might be big
duncan right like scottish so be careful
yeah yeah okay fine
but he's gonna show up for this [ __ ]
game like mel gibson and braveheart then
you know the story of him right like
someone trained to rob his house and he
[ __ ] the guy up
yeah
threw him out
that's awesome like literally like a
movie like throw him out like like the
saloon and blazing saddles like threw
him through the window sort of [ __ ] yeah
that happens way too often in in england
where like the player is out and had his
stuff stolen from his house i'm like
what the [ __ ] is going on
they don't have rules there that's what
the [ __ ] is going on they have more it's
less crime than here but it's weird how
often that happens like yeah
it's [ __ ] like less and like
statistically but it's like actually can
you people just deal drugs like stealing
stuff is really inefficient you gotta
steal it you gotta sell it you gotta
hope it doesn't get tracked the guy's
gonna be like you might have stole this
but
it's only it it in philadelphia it's
worth 50 bucks
you know what i mean like
you got to do stuff with it yeah no
that's a lot of work it's a whole is a
whole conveyor belt you know yeah you
got to know a guy it ends up like it's
like snatch
and yeah just sell talks the dog eats
the [ __ ] diamond and runs away with
the pikeys it's a mess
i'm gonna end it we got nothing no well
we've still got one more
unfortunate game to [ __ ] talk about
oh and we're going
for bridge and i don't want to and um at
the beginning of this stretch now we
didn't get to play arsenal
but i did say
that if you draw
at the beginning stretch it was two
games against chelsea obviously you want
four points out of it i just wanted to
beat chelsea in the cup draw arsenal and
lose to chelsea in the league and i
would have signed for that
we lost both legs in the cup
we didn't get to play arsenal which i
think as i said in the last show is
gonna work out to our benefit later in
the season because we'll have sunny and
romero back
but now we go back to the bridge
the question is does bergvine play now i
feel like the answer has to be yes um
especially in lieu of sunny still wow
an emotional manager you would think he
might you have to kind of ride him a
little bit but the other thing is i i
said it in in our or save him
no you got to keep riding him because in
in the same
way that when we talked about last
season right after the crystal palace
[ __ ] kicking in that second half with
mourinho the the liverpool game in
anfield when bergvine hits the bar
on the season
and it was the end of the season it was
at the end of him
it killed him he got the social media
because he got everything so for him to
have that moment and for him to have
that that confidence booster not once
but twice
and to lift the team from the depths of
[ __ ] back to frankly a point off the top
here's a question i have though
when does kante simply realize he his
best midfielder is harry kane
well yeah that the answer that they've
been looking for is
kane playing firmino's style or playing
the the nine and the ten right said
that's a lot right because with bergvin
and maura they just run
right and if he drops
so that's the question i have and then
we have to very quickly touch on mr
erickson going to brentford oh god well
is that is that locked and loaded is
that no i think someone just saw that
[ __ ] little red flag was like yeah
danish danish danish
danish
we'll discuss that when it happens but i
mean i i it's not going to make me fall
back in love with brantford if that's
what you're asking i'm [ __ ] done with
them i told them one more time and they
[ __ ] me again and that's it done with
them they were so good they were so good
in the first day i love them i love them
so much though um
i feel like [ __ ] going into the bridge
again i think we lose
better than it was yeah i think yeah i
think i think that the same issue keeps
happening it's just like
even
poorly playing chelsea and even
not at their best liverpool are much
better than the other teams in the
league that's i mean yeah that's what
we've said for a while that there is a a
hard and fast line after the number
three though it has gotten small real
fast
like
like chelsea are just literally dropping
to the pack but because of draws right
they're not losing has been dropping
back too west ham united arsenal
tottenham all dropping points recently
right so it's not so much that yeah
liverpool you notice no hold on here's
the difference you notice when liverpool
and chelsea drop points you notice when
they
don't do well which is gone one of those
teams right yeah [ __ ] you see if one of
those other teams outside effectively
the five-man race for number four yeah
if they drop points you almost don't
notice because there's so many teams in
that cluster you're like oh well uh well
todd never played well well west ham are
playing well well united got yeah but
but chelsea don't want to get sucked in
to make it a
six-man race for two spots then they
won't they won't but you understand that
they still have to there's a
two more games worth of [ __ ] and i
understand it's not that much
but it sort of is right like okay
but the thing that i worry about is
tukul's germanness
that frankness the thing that really
gets him in trouble that i mean it's
just german personality i think klopp is
the weird one
the most of the german they're all
[ __ ] weirdos except for cop i think i
think klopp is like feels really
american in this weird way it's like if
he beca if he moved to california he's
like i don't know why i never lived here
before you'd be like but i'm like
immediately part of the culture yeah
yeah he was like he just keeps talking
about it until you believe it yeah i
mean like jurgen klinsmann that's
happened before yeah yeah well i mean
jurgen klinsmann he lives in america his
kids are american he's just like yeah
he's almost he's barely german anymore
right but i think klopp has that in them
but but tukol is very like
if i were playing for him like yo shut
the [ __ ] up he's like a weird dude
and i and i and i i wonder i have this
question for you
and we'll we can wrap up on this
do you think that that
complaining that
klopp and tuchel did during the
christmas period
damaged his teams
because guardiola did not do it
he didn't take a [ __ ] on the schedule he
just said it is what it is now it's easy
to do when you have 25 guys that are
worth 40 million dollars each
but
klopp and tuko were just like
schedule
god
the reason i don't the reason i think no
is
that
react that um impersonation was spot on
and that's exactly what he does every
single year any time we get to the
festive period when liverpool the club
world cup when if we had got for bibi
advance in a cup he immediately just
starts bitching and moaning about the
schedule so
whether or not uh i'm not even saying
like
that it's not yeah but in this thing
i think the team's we've had strong
holiday periods too and he's like he's
done this year and year out so i just
don't think that's going to be no you
did it once
actually no that's not true you know
what i'm saying the bitching about the
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he's he's on that
since he's been here
yeah and he's done not just in the
holiday period like that's a constant to
me so that's not going to be but i i
wonder what tucol
the chelsea team is
is similar to psg in that if the players
want to they get you fired
in chelsea yes
yeah
now a lot of that culture is really sort
of
exiting it's a part of that it's partly
that and it's also part of the goalie
then you get fired well right but it's
also partly uh you know the regime
is trigger happy right they they did to
frank lampard though they hired him too
early and we talked about that one at
the time but i think they kept them on
too long yeah but they threw out a club
legend on the curb like he was a [ __ ]
schlub so they were right i'm not saying
that they weren't they were wrong to
hire him in the first place though yeah
but they they were had the transfer ban
i don't think they thought he would do
that well and he did
yeah okay yeah yeah and then they they
jumped they were like tuco's available
he's world class
frank i bet if i bet marina was like
frank you know you're not as we're doing
it i'm sorry
like you get it this is like
all right okay
because he's a loser
as a coach
i don't know i didn't like anyway
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